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10-23-2012, 01:41 AM
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Asking SCOTT STEINER for Wrestling Advice
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread
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I think WM21 is a very underrated show. Angle/HBK, Orton/Undertaker are excellent, MITB is a classic, Eddie/Rey is decent, Batista/HHH is average and Cena/JBL is a bit of a let-down although not as bad as most say it is. It does feel a bit empty when an up and comer like Batista is part of the main drawing match and there's no "big time" attraction (unless you count Piper's Pit with Austin or Hulk Hogan's return).
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Wm 21 felt underrated because it didnt feel like "wrestlemania".It wasnt in a huge stadium like wwe has wrestlemania nowadays so it didnt had that Special feeling.
Wrestlemania should always be in huge stadiums
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10-23-2012, 09:10 AM
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread
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Originally Posted by K1ngOfK1ngs
I can't decide what I like more, that match or Taker-Heidenreich. Anybody that wants to say that Taker is overrated can go fuck themselves and watch that damn match. MMA Zombie at his finest against a guy with an attempted but much shittier style. Taker rocks 
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I prefer Taker-Heidenreich. Heidenreich really upped his game for this one because the only thing I could think of when it came to him was the Michael Cole segment, the goofy "poems" and him injuring Stevie Richards twice in one month (in 03), lol. The crowd was also a bit better for Taker's match while I felt they were mostly dead for Shelton-Christian.
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Originally Posted by StonecoldGoat
Wm 21 felt underrated because it didnt feel like "wrestlemania".It wasnt in a huge stadium like wwe has wrestlemania nowadays so it didnt had that Special feeling.
Wrestlemania should always be in huge stadiums
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Erm, to me the Hollywood centered set-up pretty much screams Wrestlemania. What makes it feel a bit underwhelming is the lack of big star match. Angle/HBK was the typical interpromotional "dream" match, MITB was innovative but the main two drawing matches were the title matches with the only guy being close to a draw at the time being HHH. I guess it also helps it in a way since WM21 put over the stars of the following years when Batista, Cena, Edge and Orton all got a huge rub from their WM matches.
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10-23-2012, 09:39 AM
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread
The hell? Other people thinking Taker/Heidenrape is good?
Love Christian/Benjamin too. A favourite match of mine.
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10-23-2012, 09:42 AM
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread
I loved WrestleMania 21. One of the best MITB matches in terms of match quality and starpower and Edge winning was great and the right decision, but I would of loved to see Christian won that with how good he was at the time. Shelton or Benoit would of been good winners too imo. Really enjoyed Micheals/Angle and Orton/Undertaker matches. Batista/HHH was decent to me and I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be, maybe it's because I really enjoyed their feud so much at the time with Batista finally breaking away from Evolution. JBL/Cena was a bit of a letdown, with how personal their feud was I felt it should of been a hardcore match or something. I enjoyed the Hollywood theme and Hogan returning was a good moment and Piper's pit was enjoyable.
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10-23-2012, 11:54 AM
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread
Cena and JBL made up for it at Judgement day, It should still have been better though. That Mania as said lacked that 'Marquee' match IMO. Rock vs HBK should have happened
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10-23-2012, 12:39 PM
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread
I liked Wrestlemania 21 as well, overall I would say that I actually enjoyed it much more than Wrestlemania 22. WM21 felt like a Wrestlemania to me and it had one of my favorite RTWMs while honestly, WM22 didn't feel nearly as big from a spectacle standpoint and I found WM22's build up to be "lacking".
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10-23-2012, 02:16 PM
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread
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DAT NYR 05 CHAMBER :hhh :hhh :hhh
Seriously, what a fucking match. The second best match with more than 4 participants in it EVER next to the 1992 Royal Rumble of course. Benoit and Jericho are just so fucking awesome in this that words actually can't describe, with Batista being the big unstoppable monster, Orton being the savant that can't wait to get his hands on HHH, HHH being well.... HHH, and Edge being tortured with the idea of HBK being the special guest referee. Everybody has a purpose. Compare it to this year's Raw chamber... What fucking purpose does Kofi Kingston serve in the damn match ? He OBVIOUSLY isn't going to win! He's not going to put on a wrestling clinic like Benoit or Jericho ? WHY?!?!?!?!
Which reminds me... The segment where Michaels gets introduced as Special Guest Referee is awesome, because they really play off the fact that he has history with literally EVERY SINGLE COMPETITOR in the match. They announce it, and all six men just go crazy in the ring, with the show ending on HHH's face saying "NOOO...NOOOO...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" :hhh :hhh
God, that was so epic.
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I don't know why, but for some reason this post makes me miss JDMan.
Taker/Heidenreich is great. ***3/4 for me.
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10-23-2012, 03:01 PM
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread
Just watched Taker/Angle - NWO 2006, first time in ages I have seen it, well what a fucking match, simply stunning piece of work from both, should have been at Mania but fuck it im just so glad it happened, it is 5 stars? Possibly, if not bloody close.
Love the Taker throwing Angle into the steps and Angle bouncing his face off the table debris spot.
Bit random, but now im watching RVD vs Sabu (stretcher match) lol.
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10-23-2012, 05:25 PM
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread
Why didnt WWE make bank with money for Wrestlemania 20-22 they were all in regular size arenas. They missed out on big pay days for 3 years.
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10-23-2012, 06:05 PM
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread
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Why didnt WWE make bank with money for Wrestlemania 20-22 they were all in regular size arenas. They missed out on big pay days for 3 years.
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Because they were repeating the original Wrestlemania trifecta; New York, LA & Chicago
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