[Big Z]

I haven't seen a single episode of the saturday show. I'll occasionally look to see what matches are on it, and its usually with guys that suck like Kofi, Ryder, Santino etc.

[zep81]

The Cena/HBK match from Raw 2007(Earls Court) match on the My Journey DVD is the full match isn't it? Gonna try and watch it this week (first time lol).

[Yeah1993]

Full match as in no commercials? Don't think that's been released. I think the match is on the other HBK DVD, the one from 2007; Heartbreak something.

[zep81]

Originally Posted by Yeah1993

Full match as in no commercials? Don't think that's been released. I think the match is on the other HBK DVD, the one from 2007; Heartbreak something.

Yeah mate, thinks its on either the My Journey or Heartbreak one, didn't realise it has the commercials included still (its the 1 hour match right?)

[Yeah1993]

Yeah, goes somewhere like 47 minutes with commercials, I think.

[Choke2Death]

Survivor Series 2004:

Spike Dudley vs Billy Kidman vs Rey Mysterio vs Chavo Guerrero - ***1/4
- Just what you expect from the cruiserweights. Fast paced action and with four guys, it gets varied between them and they get enough time to make it work. Spike Dudley retains with Kidman's help. And I also like to mention that I really like Mysterio's green outfit here. Wish he would have worn it more often.

Shelton Benjamin vs Christian - ***1/2
- Another good match to follow-up the decent opener by two talented, athletic guys. Shelton retains the IC title after about 15 minutes. This is also the debut of the stylish Captain Charisma with the hoodie and the Waterproof Blond theme which I'm glad to hear. First Edge debuts "Metalingus", now it's Christian's turn to switch that awful theme with something better.

Team Guerrero (Eddie Guerrero, Rob Van Dam, Big Show & John Cena) vs Team Angle (Kurt Angle, Luther Reigns, Mark Jindrak & Carlito) - **3/4
- Nothing special since Angle's team is pretty subpar and the faces are booked too strongly with them having 3 survivors. Funny to think that the year before, Cena was on Angle's team while Big Show was with the heels. Got a chuckle out of Cena mocking Jindrak's ass-shaking, though.

The Undertaker vs Heidenreich - ***3/4
- Wow, I'm surprised at how good this match was. Heidenreich keeps up with Undertaker, looks good in defeat and Taker does his best to carry him into a quality match. Really enjoyed this and probably Taker's second best 04 match after the SD one with John Cena.

Trish Stratus vs Lita - 1/2*
- Not even a match. Lita goes mental on Trish for one minute then gets herself DQ by using a chair. Don't see point in the video package if they were gonna throw it away in one minute just like that. I assume the Raw match in December is a lot better.

JBL vs Booker T - **3/4
- Mostly boring while it lasts but despite the overbooking in the end with Josh Matthews of all people getting involved, it gets better by the end. JBL retains with the usual shenanigans of outside interference, title belts being used and so on. I think they went too far on this one as a simple belt shot after a ref bump would have sufficed.

Team Orton (Randy Orton, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho & Maven) vs Team HHH (HHH, Batista, Snitsky, Edge) - ***1/2
- A good elimination match to close the PPV with Orton finally getting a one-up on HHH after being screwed out of the World Title previously. Also a great babyface performance by Orton when the odds are stacked against him with HHH & Edge still being in the match while he's on his own. People love to say Orton got silent reactions with his face turn but I see the crowd giving him pretty decent reactions here although not on top babyface levels and that is due to HHH killing all his momentum at Unforgiven, I think.

Overall: ***1/2 out of ***** (A pretty good PPV with plenty of good stuff and nothing terrible with the exception of the divas match. Non-Smackdown PPVs have been good in quality for the most part in 2004 and this carries the tradition.)

[The Beast Incarnate]

Fucking ADORE the Team HHH vs Team Orton Survivor Series Elimination Match. Such a great ending sequence with Orton and HHH that it's actually awesome. Those last few minutes with HHH and Orton beats everything they've ever done by FAR (even the NM LMS). I remember punching a hole through my wall when team Orton won because I wanted HHH to run Raw and squash like The Hurricane and Rosey again or something for four straight weeks hahaha :hhh

Benjamin-Christian is fucking awesome as well, but then again... Everything that Christian or Benjamin touched at that time period was fucking awesome anyways, so what the hell do you expect here. This is pacing 101, as these two just go out there and tore the fucking house down, should have been the opener actually. I can't decide what I like more, that match or Taker-Heidenreich. Anybody that wants to say that Taker is overrated can go fuck themselves and watch that damn match. MMA Zombie at his finest against a guy with an attempted but much shittier style. Taker rocks

[Caponex75]

Orton was pretty over as a face in 04 if I remember right. That was actually the year I got back into wrestling and I thought the Orton/HHH feud was amazing. The build up to Survivor Series and the elimination chamber build up were great. I remember Orton RKOing every member in Evolution in the UK and people were going bananas.

[Coolquip]

^KingofKing likes a Triple H match? Ya don't say.

Anyways I actually sort of liked the Orton face turn with the exception Benoits burial. Then again I was young and accepted most things WWE told me back then. (Hell, I kinda liked the Eugene angle )

[The Beast Incarnate]

DAT NYR 05 CHAMBER :hhh :hhh :hhh


Seriously, what a fucking match. The second best match with more than 4 participants in it EVER next to the 1992 Royal Rumble of course. Benoit and Jericho are just so fucking awesome in this that words actually can't describe, with Batista being the big unstoppable monster, Orton being the savant that can't wait to get his hands on HHH, HHH being well.... HHH, and Edge being tortured with the idea of HBK being the special guest referee. Everybody has a purpose. Compare it to this year's Raw chamber... What fucking purpose does Kofi Kingston serve in the damn match ? He OBVIOUSLY isn't going to win! He's not going to put on a wrestling clinic like Benoit or Jericho ? WHY?!?!?!?!

Which reminds me... The segment where Michaels gets introduced as Special Guest Referee is awesome, because they really play off the fact that he has history with literally EVERY SINGLE COMPETITOR in the match. They announce it, and all six men just go crazy in the ring, with the show ending on HHH's face saying "NOOO...NOOOO...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" :hhh :hhh

God, that was so epic.