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Just no - as long as there isn't a full fledged face big draw to hold their back for the next generation (i.e. Ryback), Cena is never going to turn heel.

Glad to know peeps that liked HHH/Lesnar. Everybody shitted so hard on that match, I was already in the idea that match was already one of the more underrated ever and not even half a year is done from since.

Well we all know that if ROCK or BROCK aren't involved, that Punk will main event that June Chicago PPV no doubt, against probably whoever is the WWE Champion at the time (assuming that he isn't, I have no doubts about him getting the title back during some point in 2013). I just hope that they don't have to give Cena his win back at that PPV TBH. Money in the Bank was a special moment and I don't see it being replicated anytime soon.

Bryan I can see becoming a full blown face very shortly (if he already isn't by now, I'd certainly classify him as one at this point), so SOMEBODY needs to turn heel... Like... NOW. Punk needs to stay in the main event for a while, WHO THE HELL IS HE GOING TO FACE OTHERWISE ? .... I could see Punk/Orton, Punk/Sheamus, Punk/Bryan (W/ roles reversed OBV), and Punk/Del Rio (ditto) as title feuds in 2013. It just seems like they'd have a lot more main event material for Punk as champion than anybody else at this point.
Orton is definitely going to turn heel this year, and I would make a bet on Kofi turning as well.

Speaking of D-Bry, what the hell is he gonna do at WM this year? My guess right now is perhaps the more sense making one at this point: him vs Kane with Dr. Shelby as special referee :mark:
 
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Punk-Cena from MITB 2011 is the wrestling equivalent of Batman-Superman from The Dark Knight Returns. Seriously, I had a prolonged discussion with my friend about this the other day, and the comparisons are endless.

I might even have it as the best WWE match of this century so far. It's THAT fucking deep/AWESOME.
 
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Poor D-Bry if that's the scenario for him at this years WM, after last years mess.

Triple H/Lesnar is on WWE Classics right now. I still have it where I had it the first time, I saw it. ***1/2 on the low end, **** at the high end.

Cena is getting the title one way or another this year, and soon. He's getting his win back vs Rock and absolutely vs Punk. Part of me can't wait to see the reactions on here. Oh, Punk/Cena MITB ****1/2. I hope they don't try to top it in Chicago this year. I don't think they will.
 
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The end all, be all in the WWE has been consistent for years. Every big angle, big match, or big moment must eventually lead to :cena2

:vince
 
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Why poor D-Bry? It's the most sense-making scenario right now. Team Hell No is bound to break up at some point (possibly this Sunday after Rhodes Scholars beat them), and the blow-off of an angle that had the world in the palm of its hands at a certain point usually has to happen at WM. Not to mention, Bryan/Kane matches are usually pretty good, and what better way to put D-Bry over than have him beat a former-WWE Champion/WHC Champion in Kane at the Biggest Stage of 'Em All? And with Dr. Shelby there as guest ref, it does have its potential :eek:

Although there's an argument that could be made for Bryan's match at WM to be fueled by him winning the Royal Rumble match (though I'd mark the fuck out if it both Bryan and Kane were to co-win the RR, like Luger and Bret in 94 :mark: ).
 
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The end all, be all in the WWE has been consistent for years. Every big angle, big match, or big moment must eventually lead to :cena2

:vince
Yep, pretty much.

I also agree that Rock/Cena was actually alittle bit better than I originally thought. I watched it about a week ago and was sort of surprised how much better it was on a 3rd watching of it. Don't get me wrong, it's not great, but it was better than I thought it was on 1st watch. Then again, I really shouldn't be surprised. I always find matches to be better after watching them a few times.

Still don't want Rock/Cena at WM again. If they have to have it, then put it on a B PPV. But we really shouldn't be getting any rematches on the biggest show of the year. Unless it's a match that happened years and years ago. Unless there's a crazy stipulation attached to a recent rematch, like someones career. Other than that, give us something else.
 
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Why poor D-Bry? It's the most sense-making scenario right now. Team Hell No is bound to break up at some point (possibly this Sunday after Rhodes Scholars beat them), and the blow-off of an angle that had the world in the palm of its hands at a certain point usually has to happen at WM. Not to mention, Bryan/Kane matches are usually pretty good, and what better way to put D-Bry over than have him beat a former-WWE Champion/WHC Champion in Kane at the Biggest Stage of 'Em All? And with Dr. Shelby there as guest ref, it does have its potential :eek:

Although there's an argument that could be made for Bryan's match at WM to be fueled by him winning the Royal Rumble match (though I'd mark the fuck out if it both Bryan and Kane were to co-win the RR, like Luger and Bret in 94 :mark: ).
I hear ya.' I just think after last years disaster, he deserves something better. And I know the odds of that happening are slim to none. Bryan vs Kane would be okay, I just want something better after basically not getting a Bryan match at WM last year.
 
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I hear ya.' I just think after last years disaster, he deserves something better. And I know the odds of that happening are slim to none. Bryan vs Kane would be okay, I just want something better after basically not getting a Bryan match at WM last year.
I think there's a genuine chance D-Bry could be in a main event title match at WM30. Obviously it depends on the 'comeback kids' (Lesnar, Rock etc.) but he's definitely over enough and clearly talented enough to be a top face in the company.
 
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I hear ya.' I just think after last years disaster, he deserves something better. And I know the odds of that happening are slim to none. Bryan vs Kane would be okay, I just want something better after basically not getting a Bryan match at WM last year.
Feel ya here. After getting cheated out of a Daniel Bryan two years in a row at WM as well, I understand what you mean.

However, with the possible *cough*rematches*cough* card we're getting at this year's Mania, Bryan/Kane is actually the (re)match I'm looking the more forward to, and I'd believe that's the more logical step for D-Bry at WM this year.
 
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I think we should just pray Bryan gets a 10 match at this year's Mania. Regardless of who with or against :/


Punk-Rock-Cena and Taker-Lesnar W/ The Game as Referee is my last prediction for Wrestlemania XXIX and I'm sticking to it.
I will take this for certain. I leaned towards these two matches about 6 months ago as they made perfect sense and serve as excellent closure for long storylines. But then we got all the Punk/Taker streak vs streak talk, and Triple H GETTING HIS WIN BACK and the idea floundered.

I'd also be alright with the idea of Taker/Punk and Lesnar/Cena/Rock, but the glaring problem you have there is they both need to be for the title. I can't even begin to contemplate how they'd build an Orton/Lesnar match :lol

Also, I know it will never happen but we can all agree that a scenario where the 29th man is eliminated moments before #30 comes out, thus meaning he would only have to enter the ring to win would rule the universe right?
I'd love it for its originality but I'd want the rest of the card to be stacked because we're talking about a relatively short Rumble (unless they bumped it up to like 2 1/2 minute intervals). :eek:
 
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I know I'm late but I was at work. Punk's matches over ***1/2:

Punk/Jericho, ER ****1/2
Punk/Bryan, OTL ****1/2
Punk/Cena, NOC ****


That's all I have. I don't remember much about the rest tbh. I personally wouldn't have it as one of the greatest championships reigns of all time never mind THE greatest. Personal taste though. Outside of these matches and the fact that it has been so long, I'd say it has been rather underwhelming. Again, it all comes down to personal taste. I'm obviously not including a lot of stuff here because I just can't remember it. Those would be his standout matches. As far as standout feuds are concerned, well, he doesn't have much to work with and that's the main part that lets him down, for me anyways.

The never ending Mania 29 predictions discussion continues lol. I'm 100% on Rock/Cena II happening and we don't have long to find out. I'm still pretty certain on Brock/Taker too. Starting to think HHH won't have a match but will still appear at the show in some fashion. Maybe he could get involved with The Shield and form a team to take them out or something along those lines. No idea about Punk. Ryback maybe? Not a clue. Like I said though, we won't be long finding out. Hard to believe the Rumble is just 3 days away now.
 
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Blasted through the 2010 and 2011 RR events tonight. Just one to go now! And one of those two I watched is just 0.5 points ahead of the WORST Rumble events ever. Hell the other one is only 2 points ahead of that. Not good :p.

Already started 2012, watched the triple threat cage. Enjoyed it a ton. Not "great" per say, but I likes it.
 
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The last actual good Rumble match was 2009 (although they all have their charm and enjoyment levels). 2010 seemed to fly by ridiculously fast; I think it had 90 second intervals and the ending was really quickly done. Edge eliminated Jericho stupidly fast imo.

Does anybody else get really bummed out watching live when number 30 comes out? Like the feeling you get at Christmas when you think "fuck it's another year until we get this". I'm still hoping for another OMG entrant since Cena in 2008, and we've since had Big Show entering at number 30 twice.

No idea about Punk. Ryback maybe? Not a clue.
Sheamus? :side:
 
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30 needs to be this guy...

:brock

I'd mark.

I reckon it goes to Ryback though as a big moment for him to come in and start eliminating a lot of people at once most likely. Either Ryback or they do actually have a big name surprise entrant coming in at the end. At least it won't be Big Show this time. Talk about disappointment. I swear you could literally feel the entire arena deflate when his music hit.
 
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