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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Damn, how good can the Eddie/Rey match on SD be that everyone here is putting it in their lists? Can't wait until I get to 2005 as 2004 is starting to become a bit boring by the end now.
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Its fucking amazing. Has the usual sensational chemistry between Rey and Eddie, but on top of that you have Eddie in the midst of his psychotic breakdown as beating Rey slowly drives him more and more insane with every passing minute and the way they incorporate this into each section of the match and focus not only Eddie's control segment but also Rey's comeback around Eddie's fragile mind is extraordinary. Probably the best match in SD history, although I can see why Rey/Orton 06, Taker/Angle 03, Benoit/Austin Edmonton 01, Benoit/Orton 06 and Benoit/Finlay 06 might also be regarded by people as better.

Btw, seeing as you've been watching Smackdown 04. Thoughts on Eddie/Show from 4/15? I think its legit one of the smartest and entertaining matches WWE has put on, but on top of that its a really fucking great David vs Goliath match and is a definite performance you'd pinpoint to as proof of Eddie's versatile talent. The spot where he manages to hide a wrench in Show's boot to use against him later in the match is still one of the most creative and brilliant visuals I can ever recall seeing.

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Most universally underrated match of all time ?





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Most universally underrated match of all time ?
Eddie vs. Rey 6/23/05
Bar from a few people (Segunda, Cal, Yeah, and a few others) I rarely see it being brought up when it comes to the all time great matches and it should be up there with the best, IMO. Must watch for any wrestling fan.

Matt Hardy vs. Edge Unforgiven 2005
LOL FATT HARDY~! No. Matt Hardy put in his career performance in this match and in my opinion, is one of, if not THEE greatest WWE Steel Cage match ever. Everything you need all rolled in to one, making for very easy and enjoyable viewing.

HHH vs. Eugene Summerslam 2004
The best character performance of the century, IMO. The match may not be ***** and it will most certainly not go down as a technical masterpiece, Triple H's dickish heel performance mixed with the sympathy Eugene manages to get alongside the selling he does makes this match remarkable. The difference between the hate you have for HHH at the beginning of the match and the hate for HHH after the match is crazy. I was never a fan of Triple H until a couple of years ago when I saw this match and it blew me away.

These three stand out a lot, to me. I could go on forever and ever, though.



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Eddie/Tajiri vs WGTT from 5/22/03 on Smackdown. Up there as one of the best tags of the decade for me, and definitely something that I enjoy as much as Austin/HHH vs Benoit/Jericho. Its also twice as good as the heavily praised Benoit/Angle vs Mysterio/Edge No Mercy 2002 match.

Mysterio/Chavo from Great American Bash 2004 is the best WWE cruiserweight match ever, though Noble/Mysterio Velocity 2004 is damn close. Definitely should be talked about a lot more.

Benoit/Finlay Judgement Day 2006 is at worst a top 15 match in WWE history. Frontrunner for MOTY worldwide imo bar maybe 1 or 2 Danielson matches from ROH, Rey/Orton and Taker/Angle. Criminal that HBK/Vince is often considered a better MOTY candidate than this in some circles.

Rey/Orton Smackdown 2006 is a top 2 WHC title match ever since it was introduced in 2002, only below Taker/Angle from No Way Out.

Christian vs Swagger 2/24/09 from ECW, its better than HBK/Taker from WM 25 to me and is probably the WWE MOTY aside from possibly Punk/Hardy Loser Leaves Town on Smackdown.

There are tons of Lucha and Japan matches that people will never have heard of which are sensational and up there with the peak of US wrestling. The famous Cestra vs Cantazzaro masterpiece from France in the 1960s is also most likely the best match to have been hardly watched by wrestling fans.

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Rey Mysterio vs Randy Orton on SD 06 is definitely up there among the most underrated.

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Btw, seeing as you've been watching Smackdown 04. Thoughts on Eddie/Show from 4/15? I think its legit one of the smartest and entertaining matches WWE has put on, but on top of that its a really fucking great David vs Goliath match and is a definite performance you'd pinpoint to as proof of Eddie's versatile talent. The spot where he manages to hide a wrench in Show's boot to use against him later in the match is still one of the most creative and brilliant visuals I can ever recall seeing.
I just had to go back and rewatch because I didn't remember it as it's been a while since I was in the early stages of the year. You pretty much described the match perfectly and I don't know if I have anything to add. Great work by both men with the David/Goliath roles played to perfection. I used to hate this type of match (see Cena/Khali JD 07) because I was brainwashed into thinking a match is all about how many MOVEZ~! are performed but since reading your reviews, I've been more appreciative of this type of match-ups. I'd rate it at ***1/4.

So glad I made the smart decision of going back to check out full years and putting more importance into match quality when watching a show. Had it not been for this thread and my sudden decision to check out full years, I would have probably just quit being a wrestling fan altogether since the current shows would have made me hate being a wrestling fan.

I am now a week from Survivor Series and the Tough Enough stuff has started to take over Smackdown's TV time. Just thought I'd point out how funny Ryan Reeves (Ryback) looks with hair at this stage and then to see how far he's come (The Miz too).

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. Good to see you're finding more and more matches you barely recall, always great to find matches you'd forgotten existed and be reminded of the quality WWE can produce.

Also to add to FluxCapacitaor's point, I really think Matt Hardy is a top 10 worker for WWE from the last decade (2000-2009). He doesn't really get noticeably good until his 2003 heel run in the cruiserweight division, but after he returns in 2005 for the Edge feud he has an insane run through 2006, till 2007 and into 2008 where he has weekly good-great TV matches. Damn good offence, brilliant seller, really has the pacing and structure of matches down, comfortable in a face/heel role, really the guy WWE should have built the midcard around. He was as over as a midcard guy could get, and really was a guy who would have made a fine midcard ace seeing as he was never going to be a main event guy. Hell the Mcintyre feud in 2010 produced some good matches with the blowoff match being the first proper introduction to Mcintyre's quality, I still cringe at the flat back bump on the steps.

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Most underrated match is something I think about sometimes. I can point to a Rey/Noble or something, but that's not so much underrated as much it is just under the radar. No one's able to underrate it if no one has seen it. Jerry Blackwell doesn't get a minuscule fraction of the love he deserves, but people don't watch him and not like him; people just don't watch him. If I'm thinking 'underrated' I have to think of a match that's been seen by many people, and is literally rated under what I think it should be. Yeah I can't think of THE match like that right now. I'll find it one day. ONE DAY.

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I wouldn't say that these are the most underrated however...

-I'm" throwing out the Paul London/Akio trilogy. Saw them on a recommendation and for the time they were given those two put on a fantastic trio of cruiserweight matches. Josh Matthews was on his A game with commentary which only added to goodness. Loved how each match progressively topped the match prior.

-I'll also throw out Matt Hardy vs. Finlay from Smackdown *6/22/07*. 18 minutes of straight show stealing goodness. You got Finlay playing the brillow, witty vet and Hardy fighting up from under; the little things and fundamentals are what made this match and the finish was excellent. I'm" going to check out his previous match with William Regal later since I don't remember it but it'll be hard to top this.

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Candice Michelle vs. Beth Phoenix (Unforgiven 07) *for women wrestling fans*
Hardy Boyz vs. Dudley Boyz- Table Match (Xtreme Smackdown '01?)
Chris Benoit vs. MVP- Best of 3 Falls Match (Judgment Day 07)
Big Show vs. Ric Flair- Extreme Rules Match (ECW 06)



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Oh man that Finlay/Hardy is absolutely spectacular. I'll watch the Cena/Michaels again soon (hell, maybe today), but honestly I can't think of anything from 2007 WWE bar Cena/Umaga that's definitely better. Legitimately great match; better than any of the Rey/Finlays, Matt Hardy's second best match and possibly a top 5 SmackDown match. I laugh in the face of Matt Hardy haters.

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