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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

All that cage match talk encouraged me to put a little list together on some of my favorite cage matches ever. I'm sure I'm missing something and the order is not 100 percent exact:


Tully Blanchard vs. Magnum TA (I Quit Match) - NWA Starrcade 1985

Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood vs. Sgt. Slaughter & Don Kernodle - Mid-Atlantic's Final Conflict 03/12/1983

Ric Flair vs. Ricky Morton - NWA Great American Bash 07/05/1986

Triple X vs. America's Most Wanted (Six Sides Of Steel) - TNA Turning Point 2004

Edge vs. Matt Hardy - WWE Unforgiven 2005

Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart - WWF SummerSlam 1994

AJ Styles vs. Abyss (Six Sides Of Steel) - TNA Lockdown 2005

Triple H vs. Ric Flair - WWE Taboo Tuesday 2005

Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe (Six Sides Of Steel) - TNA Lockdown 2008

CM Punk vs. Jeff Hardy (Loser Leaves WWE) - WWE Smackdown 08/28/2009

Kurt Angle vs. Mr. Anderson (Six Sides Of Steel) - TNA Lockdown 2010

Ron Garvin vs. Ric Flair - NWA Starrcade 1987

Triple H vs. The Rock - WWF Rebellion 1999

Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit - WWF Raw 06/11/2001

Edge vs. Kurt Angle - WWE Smackdown 05/30/2002

Ric Flair vs. Hulk Hogan (Career vs. Career) - WCW Halloween Havoc 1994

The Undertaker vs. Batista - WWE Smackdown 05/12/2007

Christian vs. Christian - WWE Raw 05/10/2004

Ric Flair vs. Dusty Rhodes - NWA Great American Bash 07/26/1986

Edge vs. Chris Benoit - WWE Raw 11/22/2004

The Steiners vs. Money Inc. - WWF Raw: SummerSlam Spectacular 08/23/1993

Randy Orton vs. Ric Flair - WWE Taboo Tuesday 2004

The Undertaker vs. Big Show - WWE Smackdown 12/05/2008

Hulk Hogan vs. Paul Orndorff - WWF Saturday Night's Main Event 01/03/1987

Jeff Hardy vs. Umaga - WWE Raw 2008

Edge vs. Chris Jericho - WWE Extreme Rules 2010

Edge/Chavo Guerrero/The Edgeheads vs. Shawn Michaels & Ric Flair (4 on 2 Handicap Match) - WWE Smackdown 03/15/2008

Randy Savage vs. Ted DiBiase - WWF Madison Square Garden 06/25/1988

Mark Henry vs. Daniel Bryan - WWE Smackdown 11/29/2011

Chris Jericho vs. CM Punk - WWE Raw 09/15/2008

Chris Jericho vs. Batista - WWE Raw 11/03/2008

Rey Mysterio vs. Batista - WWE Smackdown 01/15/2010

Edge & Chris Jericho vs. Jeff Hardy & Rey Mysterio (Special Referee: CM Punk) - WWE Smackdown 06/26/2009


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That's a fantastic list. Magnum-Blanchard is the greatest cage match of all time IMO, hands down. My list will be strictly WWF/WWE though, so it's going to be more of a MYSTERY as to what's number one :hhh

Also, I know this isn't the TNA DVD/Match/Show discussion thread, but Styles-Abyss is my favourite TNA match ever and a legit candidate for MOTY 2005 (YES I think it's better than the Unbreakable 3 way )





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Only TNA match from 2005 that's a contender for MOTY is Styles/Joe from Turning Point. That being said its not better than either Eddie/Rey 6/23 Smackdown or Benoit/Regal Velocity 2005, been a while since I watched it but HHH/Batista strikes me as better as well. HHH/Flair Steel Cage, Hardy/Edge Unforgiven and another Rey/Eddie match would also be higher. Its definitely better than a lot of WWE matches from that year, but I'd probably have 5 WWE matches ahead of it at least.

Speaking of Hardy/Edge, their Summerslam 05 match is a contender for best sub 10 minute match in company history IMO. I remembered it being bloody but I watched it a couple of months back and was blown away by how good Edge's offence actually looked for once. Should have stuck to headbutting people square in the face and working a cut instead his indyriffic CAW offence. Hardy also throws some amazing punches and sells as well as anyone has ever sold blood loss in a WWE ring.

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I haven't seen Styles/Abyss but the thought of Abyss having a MOTYC makes me feel weird. I will watch it one day.

Watched the DX v Legacy matches. Thoughts be here (sort of, some of it is just babbling):

SUMMERSLAM
I liked the first ten minutes of this a ton (the match- DX's entrance was kinda really lame and if that was on while I was having dinner with my family I would have to explain I don't enjoy it). HHH just spends some time punching and kneeing both Legacy dudes in the face and his stuff looked good. Then Rhodes gets near Michaels and it's obvious as hell he's going to slap him in the face. Obviousness kind of bothers some people, but it doesn't bother me, I was looking forward to it and if he DIDN'T happen to slap him in the face I would have said a mighty "what the fuck!?" What was really great about the slap was the crowd were chanting 'HBK' and Michaels were looking at them meaning he didn't see Cody's hand plummet toward his beard. Obviously he wants t be tagged in now, and after some dilly-dally wrestling Cody just slaps in the face AGAIN. Michaels says "fuck you" and tackles him to the ground, but Rhodes saids "no, fuck YOU" and reverses it right away and punches at his face. Best two minutes of Cody Rhodes ever. Both Legacy members work over Michaels really well and I don't remember this team looking this good. I was actually disappointed when Michaels got the tags because I wanted the Legacy's stuff to go longer. HHH's house o' fire sort of thing was all right, but it was great when Cody kicked in the back while on apron like 'ah fuck you', but then HHH says 'no fuck YOU' and pulls him in the ring. The finishing parts were kinda cool with HHH getting in a sort-of-cheap-shot Pedigree and people bumping everywhere, but it didn't feel like the sort of end I wanted I liked the match overall. The end was fine (Cody sold the superkick pretty bad though), but through I was like "IDK what I wanted near the end but it wasn't this." You understanding me? If not then I'll say fuck you worse than Cody Rhodes did. . It feels like these two teams had a really good ten minute TV match in them that I hope actually happened. Even then, as of now this is either my favourite or second favourite Michaels/HHH tag. IDK if that's saying a WHOLE lot because I think most of their matches were either average or kinda shitty or really shitty, but I liked this.

BREAKING POINT
So I just gone done saying these teams wrestled a good, normal match, and here we are with Submissions Count Anywhere. I don't remember seeing too many Submissions Count Anywhere matches, so I wasn't sure what to totally expect. I saw visions of four goofballs putting on shitty crossfaces on the streets in front of confused locals. And a moose (they were in Canada). What this was OK, but I'm not much a fan of the WWE-style All Over the Arena brawl even when they're done pretty well (and this one was done kinda averagely). The opening was kind of weird with Michaels looking at HHH and DiBiase instead of looking at Rhodes kick him in the leg. If he doesn't see it he won't sell it. Both DX guys work both Legacy guys' legs and I liked DiBiase stumbling toward HHH and almost falling over when punching him the head. The Boston Crab/Camel Clutch through the chair spot was really cool. They wind up in the concession area where they have a bunch of random chanting weirdos yelling 'YOU SCREWED BRET' at Michaels, and this was just after they worked over both Rhodes' and DiBiase's legs. Then they put on figure-fours. HUH? You're in Montreal surrounded by beer-guzzling bitter Bret Hart fans- USE THE SHARPSHOOTER. Speaking of submission moves - I wish neither member of DX ever used the crossface. I'm not particularly offended by it or anything; they just suck ass at putting it on. Back near the ring sometime later Rhodes has this reverse Gory Guerrero whatever thingy it is on Michaels and HHH seemingly breaks it up by jumping off of the apron and not even touching him. I'm imagining Steph telling Cody before the match- "Whenever you put that Reverse Gory Guerrero Whatever Thingy It Is on Shawn- you will break it up when Hunter jumps to the floor." To which Cody replies with "YES EMPRESS!" and a salute. I don't remember much of the last moments where the Legacy were working Michaels over solo. Well I kinda do but I don't really think it's really worth mentioning. IDK. Needed a moose. If this had Shawn Michaels putting on a sharpshooter in front of a moose it would have been ****1/2.

HELL IN A CELL
I loved the idea of this. Unfortunately it wasn't executed very well and just wasn't much fun to watch. Rhodes and DiBiase attack DX before the match even starts and they brawl all around the outside. Said brawling just wasn't that good. They get to the ramp entrance place and HHH takes Rhodes' god-awful finisher (seriously the fuck is that thing?) on the entrance way. This way they lock the door and keep Shawn in the ring and can just beat on him and win handily. It was just kind of boring and I thought the visual of HHH lying there was funny. Shawn's semi-comebacks were kind of fun, I liked when he just channelled his inner Sabu and chucked the chair directly at Cody's face. Rhodes also took a hell of a bump into the cell when Michaels used DiBiase as a weapon. One MILLION minutes after lying dead from The Shitty Thing That Is Cody Rhodes' Finisher, HHH is flopping and bouncing like a mental patient on stilts down the ramp-way. And I thought him just lying there was funny. Then he can't open the lock and DiBiase yells like an idiot "you like that donchta?" "you're HELPESS TRIPLE HHHHHH". That was also kind of funny, like when the Miz tries to act serious. Actually Shawn's acting in some of this was abysmal, like I don't remember anything short of his awful Southern Belle performance at this year's WrestleMania being worse. He was shaking a wobbling like an old man, and he was better at shaking and wobbling like an old man in 1996 when he wasn't actually an old man. So HHH leaves to what I'm hoping is him running down the ramp yelling like a barbarian to try to break the door down with his shoulder, but instead what I get after a millionerererer more minutes than him lying there was some bolt cutters. He cuts the door he hits people DiBiase locked out DX win match over GOODBYE. Bleh.


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Whilst we're on the subject

2005 MOTYs WWE/TNA

1) Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio - 6/23/05
2) Chris Benoit vs. William Regal - Velocity ??/??/05
3) Triple H vs. Batista HIAC - Vengance 2005
4) AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe - Turning Point 2005
5) Triple H vs. Ric Flair Steel Cage - Taboo Tuesday 2005

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Angle/Michaels from Mania tops my list for 05 and the rest of my Top 5 would be Unbreakable 3-way, Batista/Trips HIAC, Joe/AJ TP, and Mysterio/Eddie SD. Lots of other matches really close too.


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July 16th for that Regal/Benoit match . My top 5 WWE/TNA (an ROH match could make it in the list too but my mind sucks at the remembering things):

1. AJ Styles Vs Samoa Joe - Turning Point
2. Undertaker Vs Randy Orton - Armageddon
3. Batista Vs HHH - Vengeance
4. Eddie Guerrero Vs Rey Mysterio - SD 23/06/2005
5. William Regal Vs Chris Benoit - WWE Velocity 16/07/2005
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I think one of the Strong/Danielson matches was in 05, if Vendetta was in 05 then that's definitely another ahead of Styles/Joe. Styles/Joe is very good in its own right, but part of why I like it so much is that I can barely name 10 TNA matches I'd call 'great' due to the style, so any match they do that actually manages to make me not only think of it as good, but a contender for MOTY will always leave me impressed. Same reason I fucking love Storm/Harris Texas Death Match from Sacrifice 2007, although again I'd have a few matches over it as MOTY.

EDIT: Vendetta was on 11/5/05.

Top 10 for the year, WWE/TNA/ROH:

1. Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio, Smackdown 6/23/05
2. Bryan Danielson vs Roderick Strong, Vendetta 11/5/05
3. Chris Benoit vs William Regal, Velocity 7/16/05
4. Batista vs HHH, Vengeance
5. Matt Hardy vs Edge, Unforgiven
6. Ric Flair vs HHH, Taboo Tuesday
7. Samoa Joe vs AJ Styles, Turning Point
8. Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio, Great American Bash
9. John Cena vs JBL, Judgement Day
10. Matt Hardy vs Edge, Summerslam

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My top 5 overall for 2005 :

1. HHH/Batista VEN
2. NYR 05 EC
3. Eddie/Rey SD
4. MITB I
5. HBK-Angle WM XXI / Abyss-Styles LD / Benoit-Regal VEL

SO many great matches from ALL promotions in 2005, might do a top 50 list someday from WWE/TNA, just a top 5 year in Wrestling history (match-wise anyways).





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Damn, how good can the Eddie/Rey match on SD be that everyone here is putting it in their lists? Can't wait until I get to 2005 as 2004 is starting to become a bit boring by the end now.
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