[Matt_Yoda]

You both are justified in your viewpoints I can't argue that. I don't know I thought the Rumble match with MNM was very well done but I just vastly preferred their DTD match, the Rumble match felt rushed. The Hardys vs. Cade & Murdoch at Judgment Day was alright I just couldn't get into it and it was really a step down from their Backlash match. The Night of Champions match was more the same as their Judgment Day match really. Still a solid line up of PPV matches that delivered.

[Obfuscation]

Originally Posted by Brye

At the time I was such a mark for all three of them that the handicap match hit me a little too hard.

Hardyt/MNM had such good chemistry.

At least Umaga didn't get pinned by Candice. That's where you dodged the real bullet, haha.

Indeed they did. Really fed off each other nicely. Showed in the Hardy vs Nitro/Morrison matches too.

Originally Posted by Nostalgia

Loved Cade and Murdoch. They were genuinely my most favorite tag team since I started watching wrestling. I've never been a fan of The Hardys, but I might check out those matches again just for Cade and Murdoch. There feud with The Hardys was probably the only thing that interested me in 2007, but then again 2007 was a pretty bad year... In my opinion wrestling started going downhill after 2006 ended.

2009 ruled though. Some idiots only choose to remember Hornswoggle & Chavo crap + RAW celebrity GM nonsense, but on the other side of the coin you had Smackdown, ECW, & Superstars with quality bouts every week. RAW didn't shy away from some good bouts themselves that year. But, ECW & Smackdown. Holy crap they were great.

@Matt_Yoda: You probably thought the Rumble tag felt rushed since it was about 8 minutes less than the December 2 Dismember match was. They REALLY got all the freedom in the world to make that match come off strong.

[Brye]

Originally Posted by Hailsabin

At least Umaga didn't get pinned by Candice. That's where you dodged the real bullet, haha.

Indeed they did. Really fed off each other nicely. Showed in the Hardy vs Nitro/Morrison matches too.



2009 ruled though. Some idiots only choose to remember Hornswoggle & Chavo crap + RAW celebrity GM nonsense, but on the other side of the coin you had Smackdown, ECW, & Superstars with quality bouts every week. RAW didn't shy away from some good bouts themselves that year. But, ECW & Smackdown. Holy crap they were great.

I agree on '09. Smackdown & ECW were great and TED & CODY were getting time on Raw. Shame that didn't pan out for Ted (shut up McQueen & Cal ). 2008 is a really underrated year too, imo. Really solid Edge/Taker feud, ECW had Henry/Hardy going, Jeff/Trips awesome feud, Cena/Batista, PUNK and a great WM and build to it. And let's not forget Batista/HBK.

You both are justified in your viewpoints I can't argue that. I don't know I thought the Rumble match with MNM was very well done but I just vastly preferred their DTD match, the Rumble match felt rushed. The Hardys vs. Cade & Murdoch at Judgment Day was alright I just couldn't get into it and it was really a step down from their Backlash match. The Night of Champions match was more the same as their Judgment Day match really. Still a solid line up of PPV matches that delivered.

I really liked the D2D match. It's a little fuzzy because of the abomination that was the rest of that show, though.

[Nostalgia]

Originally Posted by Brye

'07 had so many injuries spread through the year that it was hard for them to keep feuds going or even start them. There were some nice standout performances but as a whole not much could be done. Plus the Benoit stuff and the huge suspensions that followed after that first drug test in the Summer.

Which lead to Khali becoming World Champion...

Originally Posted by Brye

First half of '07 owned, imo. Then I just started caring about Umaga, Punk, Murdoch, Cade, Burke and Londrick. And obviously TAKER/TISTA and eventually Orton.

Cena/Umaga at Royal Rumble 2007 was awesome, and you may be right about the first half being good, but after the Benoit tragedy in June and Khali becoming World Champ in July the show went downhill fast.

Originally Posted by Hailsabin

2009 ruled though. Some idiots only choose to remember Hornswoggle & Chavo crap + RAW celebrity GM nonsense, but on the other side of the coin you had Smackdown, ECW, & Superstars with quality bouts every week. RAW didn't shy away from some good bouts themselves that year. But, ECW & Smackdown. Holy crap they were great.

And that's where are opinions greatly differ because I hated 2009. So much so, to the point where I took a break from wrestling for a month because Orton was boring the crap out of me as the champion on RAW. Worst wrestling year imo.

[Brye]

Originally Posted by Nostalgia

Which lead to Khali becoming World Champion...



Cena/Umaga at Royal Rumble 2007 was awesome, and you may be right about the first half being good, but after the Benoit tragedy in June and Khali becoming World Champ in July the show went downhill fast.

Yeah, FUCK. Khali's reign was less than desirable.

[Matt_Yoda]

I often stated my criticisms about WWE '08 but the beginning of that year was boss and ECW was my favorite show during the second half of the year. WWE really REALLY dropped the ball on Michaels/Batista they could've made for a great program IMO.

[Brye]

Originally Posted by Matt_Yoda

I often stated my criticisms about WWE '08 but the beginning of that year was boss and ECW was my favorite show during the second half of the year. WWE really REALLY dropped the ball on Michaels/Batista they could've made for a great program IMO.

I figure you would appreciate this. Went to an ECW houseshow in '08 that had a 20 minute Hardy/Henry match that absolutely owned. Was very similar to the No Mercy one except it featured COLIN DELANEY at the end.

[Choke2Death]

2007 was a cursed year for WWE and I'm surprised they survived those DARK times. HHH, Shawn Michaels, Undertaker, John Cena, Edge, Mr. Kennedy, Matt Hardy and plenty others were out at one point or another due to injury, then the Benoit tragedy fucked things up even worse followed by the suspensions afterwards. The year started off okay with the successful Wrestlemania but the summer is the darkest of them if there has ever been one. But there were still some good stuff after that such as Batista/Taker and Orton's title reign.

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[quote=Brye;12156880]I agree on '09. Smackdown & ECW were great and TED & CODY were getting time on Raw. Shame that didn't pan out for Ted (shut up McQueen & Cal ). 2008 is a really underrated year too, imo. Really solid Edge/Taker feud, ECW had Henry/Hardy going, Jeff/Trips awesome feud, Cena/Batista, PUNK and a great WM and build to it. And let's not forget Batista/HBK.QUOTE]

Orton vs Ted I in England

I still loved getting crap back then for thinking Cody was the better half of Legacy. Oh my how I was the only one who pegged that. CODY RHODES IS LEGIT. Ted is quality too, imo. Too bad he's been reduced down to jobber. Not to mention those injuries that plagued him all year till about NOC when he returned.

2008 had it's moments. RAW & ECW certainly outshined Smackdown for the majority of the year. Smackdown was SO bad for a good while. Not until the very end did it have some matches that made it worth seeing. (Taker/Show Cage, Jeff/HHH series, Shelton/Helms US Championship, believe Edge/Matt had a strong showing, Jeff/Show, etc.)

While you mentioned Punk for 2008, Brye, you forgot the best thing about that year: Jericho vs Michaels feud. Completely owned the rest of the year for anyone. Granted Taker/Edge was a damn good series of matches. PPVs delivered for that year. No Mercy 2008 being the tops. Excellent show.

@ Nostalgia: That's why I didn't mention RAW stuff overall for 2009. I mentioned everything else about the WWE being great. That was like Orton's best year too. So I don't agree w/that point.

[Matt_Yoda]

LMAO @ Colin Delaney, damn I'm" getting nostalgic and it was only 4 years ago. Yeah it's no secret I loved WWECW during that time period and the Miz/Morrison team was really entertaining. There was a great ECW Fatal 4 Way match between Matt/Finlay/Miz/Morrison but it got taken off of YouTube sadly.

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Man WWE pissed me off with the way they dropped the ball on Ted Jr., I don't know if that was the match but the facials and psychology in that match was excellent IMO. The fans were so behind Ted at that time.