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Old 10-17-2012, 09:03 PM   #7501 (permalink)
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Yeah, most of the best cage matches happened in NWA and territories mostly because of the Escape the Cage stuff. I don't mind it all the time, but in a hate feud you should be pinning a guy after beating the shit out of them instead of creating drama by doing the Get Down stuff on top of the cage. I think Bret v Owen from SummerSlam took a bigger blow because of those rules more than any other match.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:03 PM   #7502 (permalink)
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I get what you're saying as far as the cage match story goes especially with a personal feud. I liked at Extreme Rules '10 how Edge refused to escape the cage until he punished Jericho mercilessly because the story was Edge wanted Jericho to feel his pain and be injured in a match. Not just winning the match but surviving the pain.

Btw, Taker/Batista SD 07, Edge/Angle SD 02, and Punk/Hardy SD 8/28/09 are underrated cage matches imo. Jericho/Punk Raw, Jericho/Batista Raw 08, and Taker/Show SD 08 are all good TV Cage matches too.

Edit - The Flair/Michaels vs. Edge & Edgeheads Handicap Cage Match SD08 and Edge & Jericho vs. Jeff Hardy & Rey Mysterio (Punk special ref) SD 09 were also forgotten yet really good.

Just brainstorming for ya KOK.

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Old 10-17-2012, 09:10 PM   #7503 (permalink)
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There's actually a lot of good cage matches from WWF/E that sort of escape memory for a bit. I like all of the Bret/Yokos a lot, same with the Hogan/Bossmans. Backlund had a really good one with somebody other than Slaughter but I can't remember who, I think it was Pat Patterson. Oooh Henry v Bryan from last year was great. There's Eddie/JBL and Eddie/Rey too but I didn't like them as much as most.
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Does anyone remember the Bret Hart/Shawn Michaels cage match being any good? I saw it ages ago and I know it wasn't great but maybe still worth a watch (re-watch).
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Just watched Punk/Cena from MITB 2011. First match I've watched in full in months. Still an incredible watch. Might get back into some Bret Hart later.
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:41 AM   #7506 (permalink)
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WWE dont know how to book cage matches

too many mixed signals. I mean, i dont get it? Is the point of the cage to keep one of them from running away so they can get an ass kicking? Is the point of two guys who hate each other? Is it for one of them run? Whats with the fucking door too?

I mean, I dont get it. And adding a title into the mix just makes shit more confusing
I thought about this as i was watching the WWE Greatest Cage Matches dvd.

You don't want the heel to run away but you not only don't put a roof on the cage but you give him added incentive to run away by giving him the victory via escaping the cage.
Two wrestlers hate each other so much, that through-out the match they'll try to escape the cage and win.

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I don't mind it all the time, but in a hate feud you should be pinning a guy after beating the shit out of them instead of creating drama by doing the Get Down stuff on top of the cage. I think Bret v Owen from SummerSlam took a bigger blow because of those rules more than any other match.
Am i crazy or was there a point in the match where they repeatedly kept climbing up the cage together and falling ?
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:45 AM   #7507 (permalink)
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yes. thats the one

it got annoying. still a fun match though
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I think the basic story of Bret/Owen cage match was "the Hart family would be kept out" of this decisive encounter between the brothers. So that means no interference from Bulldog, Anvil, Bruce, etc. Just Bret and Owen proving once again who the better wrestler is by not only punishing your brother in the steel cage but also besting him by having the fortitude to endure the match and escape the cage. I think they sold the struggle they had as competitors and as brothers who despised each other with as they had a tug-of-war at the cage door or fought at the top of the cage before crashing and burning. Sure they had several moments doing this but I feel they did a fantastic performance in what felt like a 30+ minute battle. A SummerSlam classic - **** 1/2

Also, KOK you will probably enjoy this - http://mover.uz/watch/pGLVK9hj/
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Watched the Punk doc, Awesome.
don't watch alot of them but that one's at the top along with the R&FofECW.

Are they still going through with the nWo dvd ?
They don't have Hall, Hogan & Bishoff.

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yes. thats the one

it got annoying. still a fun match though
It got tedious for me at that point, thought it was a good match.
The battle to escape the cage is something i never look forward to in a cage match, why WWE throws the match out randomly i'll never know.
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The Miz vs. Kofi Kingston – WWE Main Event 10/17/2012

Both Kofi and Miz had some solid promos before and after the match and the superstar profile video packages are so well done on these shows every week. They also make the match and superstars feel more important and are one of my favorite aspects of “Main Event” along with the TV matches that receive adequate time every week. This is the best “Main Event” match so far. Well, the show's only been on air three weeks but I really enjoyed this TV match. Kofi took a sick dive to Miz from the inside of the ring to the floor. Really liked the pace of this match with the near-falls and they included a smart callback spot to the devastating Trouble In Paradise finish from Raw. Kofi and Miz had some really good transitions and pacing here. That exchange with Kofi flipping over the steps and flying back with a clothesline was cool. Miz looked good too giving Kofi multiple kicks to the head during the match as payback for his kick to the head from Kofi. I liked how feared TIP was in this match and that Kofi put Miz away with it again to win the IC Title. ***
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