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post #7391 of 20566 (permalink) Old 10-15-2012, 01:38 PM
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

I agree in-ring skills is definitely sizable portion of how someone can show their charisma. It's funny because my brother (who's a huge Rock mark) was more excited hearing Rock was competing at Survivor Series than Rock coming back in February 2011 and cutting the promo he did, and I think Rock's in-ring work, while good for the most part, has never been exceptional. Ultimately while I believe mic skills/feuds is what will primarily bump up the TV ratings, big/highly anticipated matches were what sell PPVs, and a part of those matches being big is the charisma of the individuals competing.

That being said, I still don't get Barrett being bad in the ring anymore. If you feel his style is boring to watch, that's one thing and I think it's that style that's very uneventful in maneuvers that's making it hard for people to care about him (he also doesn't use many moves during a match as he strikes a lot), but technically speaking he works his style very very well, and has developed a nice little move set and has decent looking offense/control segments. I think it's not the technical aspect of his in-ring work, but rather the style he utilizes combined with the fact there isn't much a reason to watch his matches since nothing big will happen that gives off this illusion that he's bad in the ring.

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Some wrestling fans always seem to think speaking into a microphone loudly means you are more charismatic.
This is so perfect and I agree. The Miz and Mr. Kennedy are *not* good mic workers, yet because they're loud and talk big so they're praised as such. Then there's wrestlers like Raven who use fancy words and all this stuff but in actual fact are bad actors and are just babbling nonsense.

I liked Barrett's promos a lot while he lead the Nexus, but it got repetitive week after week. He's had surprisingly good showings in matches against Zeke and Sheamus since then but overall he's not someone I care to watch any more.

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Just watched Timeline 1997 with Jim Cornette,

Really enjoyed it myself tbh, probably a bit more than Nash's 1995 one, gotta love listening to Cornette though, some reason i think he hates Russo

One thing that came across too i thought was his enthusiasm for actual wrestling matches, more than some of the silly stories which was nice.
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When it came to Mr. Kennedy, if he wasn't wrestling Taker I could have really cared less. Thought his schtick was completely boring....."DURR I TALK LOUD" Was the extent of his gimmick, and the fact that he got injured and left for the lesser company is one of wrestling's hidden blessings over the past 10 years ago. Any other "Hidden Blessings" happen over that time period ?

When it comes to The Miz in terms of singles competition, his best match would be his match with Daniel Bryan at Night of Champions 2010. *** 3/4 from me, an all around awesome match with only Miz-Morrison from Raw coming close to it in terms of Miz singles. There was a match with Cena on Raw in mid 2011 that was good, but other than that... Fuck Miz . The fatal four way at last month's Night of Champions was a terrible, terrible match... Who had the brilliant idea to put Miz and Sin Cara in a match together ? I swear, if those two ever got a singles match on PPV, it might end up being a DUD.

Barrett's best singles match from where I stand is vs Bryan as well, which is the SS 2011 encounter that I currently have at *** 1/2 , which barely beats out the two Cena PPV matches for me. Come to think of it, I don't think Bryan gets enough credit for pulling GREAT fucking matches out of pure shit If the WWE ever wasted an Undertaker streak match on Wade, I'd be 100 percent convinced that there is no god.





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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

I liked Kennedy. His matches with Taker were pretty damn good, mostly because of how sloppy there were. Kennedy had nothing even resembling a moveset, his matches with taker was just two guys fucking each other up

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If the WWE ever wasted an Undertaker streak match on Wade, I'd be 100 percent convinced that there is no god.
I guess you can say there is one since this match will never happen.
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I liked Kennedy. His matches with Taker were pretty damn good, mostly because of how sloppy there were. Kennedy had nothing even resembling a moveset, his matches with taker was just two guys fucking each other up
I remember Taker working his arm or something. Kennedy's pretty bad. I haven't seen a match in the 2006 SDs where he's looked like the better guy and he's just been facing jobbers for the most part. I find it absolutely mind-boggling and totally bloody hilarious that anyone thought he was going to be the future of wrestling. He has no tools whatsoever.

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Best Mr. Kennedy matches in WWE worth watching

Kennedy/Matt Hardy SD 06
Kennedy/Batista SD 06
Kennedy/Batista GAB 06
Kennedy/Taker No Mercy 06
Kennedy/Taker First Blood Survivor Series 06
Kennedy/Taker Last Ride Armageddon 06
Kennedy/Batista Royal Rumble 07
Kennedy/HBK Armageddon 07
Kennedy/HBK Raw 08

That's the best he's looked in the WWE as far as singles matches are concerned. Most of everything else is average or crappy.


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post #7399 of 20566 (permalink) Old 10-15-2012, 08:09 PM
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I forgot that he faced Batista at GAB after Henry was injured. I'm almost up to GAB so I'll give that a look.

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Kennedy was alright IMO

His problem was his attitude and sense of entitlement

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