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Christian/Jericho WM XX is criminally underrated.
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Favorite Christian WWE matches?
Shoot man. I'll come back to that when I start up this ECW project.

I'll give one I thought was quality: vs Shelton Benjamin from Survivor Series 2004. ***1/2. Wasn't his best match while in the E, sure, but I always liked it. Threw in some nice spots towards the final stretch. Using Tomko to his advantage or finding any way to weasel his way to the championship was always entertaining. Classic heel Christian. They had good chemistry. I could list their ladder match from TLC 2009 if I remembered it. I don't, however.

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Christian/Jericho WM XX is criminally underrated.
***1/2. It has a nice back and forth flow to it.
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I like the triple threat with Cena & Jericho at Vengeance 05, the ladder match with Alberto Del Rio at ER 11, the Orton series, the obvious ones (TLC series) and he has some good matches with Jericho in 2004, including steel cage and ladder. And it is not talked about much, if at all, but I enjoyed the fatal four way for the US Title that included Benoit, Orlando Jordan and Booker T. I think it was at No Mercy 05 or Great American Bash, not exactly sure on which PPV.

I really don't get how Christian went from challenging for the WWE Title on Raw against Cena to being jobbed out in throwaway midcard matches on Smackdown. It's obvious they did it intentionally because he was getting over in spite of their efforts to keep him a midcarder. Thankfully, he beat the system last year and became a TWO TIME World Heavyweight Champion!
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Oh yeah his match against Benoit @ No Mercy 05 was pretty decent, of course no where near his best matches as listed above but forgotten
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That 4 way owned. Now that's an underrated match. Best match on No Mercy 2005. Hate the Handicap Casket and thought Eddie only got Batista to a decent match.
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I love Christian/Benjamin from Survivor Series '04.
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So I took Clique's suggestion and I've been watching Orton match after Orton match for the last week or so, and I have a fair grasp on what's going to be in my top 25. However, I'm going to need a little help in outlining what TV matches I should watch from Orton over his 10 year WWE career. I've got 3 or 4 hours to kill here so I can watch a nice amount of matches, I just need to know which TV matches I should watch. There are obvious ones like the Raw 04 and Smackdown 06 matches with Benoit, but can somebody else give me another 5 to 10 matches to watch so that I can finally watch/complete my list ?

Here's a question to ponder as well : When it comes to pure in ring work and results over their 10 year careers, who has a better catalouge of matches, Orton or Cena ? Who is better overall ? For me, it's easily Cena in every regard, but I want to hear opinions on this.
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I'm not sure. I'll have to make a top 25 matches for Orton myself to compare. Orton has his series with Christian and Undertaker which make up at least half a dozen ****+ matches. Not sure though how he would compare to Cena, but neither man has a match over ****1/2 imo.

In any event, some Orton TV matches:

1) Against Christian on Raw in 2005 in February (can't remember date) (***3/4-****)
2) Against Undertaker on SD, I believe in between their Summerslam and No Mercy matches (****-****1/4)
3) Against Christian on the SD after ER last year (****)
4) Against Edge Raw 2004 after Vengeance (****)
5) Against Edge Raw 2007 after Backlash (****)

That should hold you over for right now. All awesome TV Orton matches.
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So I took Clique's suggestion and I've been watching Orton match after Orton match for the last week or so, and I have a fair grasp on what's going to be in my top 25. However, I'm going to need a little help in outlining what TV matches I should watch from Orton over his 10 year WWE career. I've got 3 or 4 hours to kill here so I can watch a nice amount of matches, I just need to know which TV matches I should watch. There are obvious ones like the Raw 04 and Smackdown 06 matches with Benoit, but can somebody else give me another 5 to 10 matches to watch so that I can finally watch/complete my list ?

Here's a question to ponder as well : When it comes to pure in ring work and results over their 10 year careers, who has a better catalouge of matches, Orton or Cena ? Who is better overall ? For me, it's easily Cena in every regard, but I want to hear opinions on this.
Have you seen the 2006 Rey match yet? I still call it the best match Orton ever had. Edge v Orton the night after Backlash 07 gets some hype. I don't remember seeing it since it aired over here, though.

You want these Raw tags, too:

Evolution v Benoit/Michaels/Foley/Benjamin 4/12/04
Batista/Orton v Edge/Benoit 5/17/04
Batista/Orton/Flair v Benoit/Edge/Jericho 6/14/04 (I think this was like 40 minutes if you count what happens in commercials)

And I agree on Cena, but I'd probably rather watch Orton at his peak to Cena at his peak. Probably.
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Thanks for the suggestions Yeah. Where would you consider Orton's peak to have taken place ? It would have to be from the program with The Undertaker up until his suspension right after Wrestlemania XXII wouldn't it ? I mean, DAMN he put on some really great matches in that time period.

WM XXI vs Taker : **** 1/4
SS 05 vs Taker : ****
NM 05 Casket Match : **** 1/4
SS 05 Elimination Tag : ****
ARM 05 vs Taker HIAC : ****
NWO 06 vs Rey : ****

Plus you had the TV matches with Benoit that I'm currently watching. God damnit, I never realize how fucking awesome Orton was at that time period. Who was better than him at that point ? I can't think of very many honestly. That's actually better than Cena's peak.. Would have to agree. SIX **** PPV matches in a row ? Going to look back over the last few years to see how many times that's been done since then.
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