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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

HBK/Orton from SS is a match I always forget about but really enjoy. Might pop it in in a few.



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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

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So... I've heard Punk/McMahon was a damn good TV match. Should I trust the hype and go watch it?
As intense as any match you'd of seen on Raw the past few years, the crowd was hot, Vince was looking good for a man of his age, Punk's heel character continues to rocket as well as the emergence of Ryback, love how JR builds him up when he comes to the ring, enjoy!
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So... I've heard Punk/McMahon was a damn good TV match. Should I trust the hype and go watch it?
I thought it was the shit. Hot crowd, memorable spots and just pure awesomeness. Vince's control segments were all believable too. One of the better No Holds Barred matches WWE have done in a while.
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Yeah that match was a hell of a lot of fun.
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

The Champ is Here! Counting down the Top 25 Matches of John Cena's Career


So, while I've been posting list after list, I've managed to get a hefty amount of Wrestling watched over the past few months or so. The whole "WWE Championship" and "World Heavyweight Championship" lists were extremely fun, so I decided to kinda make it my thing, because well....I just really fucking love lists for some reason

This is going to be my first Superstar feature, and these lists will indeed feature both PPV AND TV bouts over the Superstar's career. Who am I going to start this off with ? None other than the current face of the WWE and one of the most polarizing figures in wrestling history ; John Cena. Yeah I know "Let's Go Cena/Cena Sucks" has certainly become a staple at practically every live event nowadays, but I'm going to take personal preference aside and just look at the quality of Cena's matches and not his gimmick/character in itself. I believe that Cena is one of the true "great" workers of our time, and his match catalogue is up there with some of the all time greats. Let's get this thing started..


25.


"Will Mysterio's dream become a nightmare?"

vs Rey Mysterio (Raw 2011) : *** 3/4


24.


"HBK just superkicked Cena on top of Orton!"

vs Randy Orton vs Edge vs Shawn Michaels (Backlash 2007) : ****


23.


"HBK and Angle are cancelling each other out"

vs Shawn Michaels vs Kurt Angle (Taboo Tuesday 2005) : ****


22.


"Triple H unloads...PEDIGREE!"

vs Triple H (Raw 2009) : ****


21.


"Cena has the odds stacked against him once again"

Team WWE vs Team Nexus (Summerslam 2010) : ****


20.


"Cena has all the reason to be paranoid"

vs Shawn Michaels (Raw 2009) : ****


19.


"Triple H, tonight I'm gonna do it AGAIN"

vs Triple H (Night of Champions 2008) : ****


18.


"Kevin Nash just screwed CM Punk"

vs CM Punk (Raw 2011) : ****


17.


"Cena, I WILL Pin you!"

vs Randy Orton (No Way Out 2008) : ****


16.


"Can Cena and Michaels co-exist?"

w/Shawn Michaels vs Batista & The Undertaker (No Way Out 2007) : ****

15.


"Michaels just kicked the game's head off!"

vs Shawn Michaels vs Triple H (Survivor Series 2009) : ****


14.


"What is it going to take to keep these men down?"

vs Edge (Last Man Standing ; Backlash 2009) : ****


13.


"Why wasn't I the face of the WWE?"

vs Batista (Wrestlemania XXVI) : ****


12.


"It's all on the line! Can the game hold on?"

vs Triple H (Wrestlemania XXII) : ****


11.


"That isn't fair to Batista!"

vs Batista (Last Man Standing ; Extreme Rules 2010) : ****


10.


"Behold the King...The King of Kings"

vs Edge vs Triple H (Backlash 2006) : ****


9.


"They've been going for nearly a damn hour now!"

vs Shawn Michaels (Raw 2007) : **** 1/4


8.


"The Showstopper's going for a ride!"

vs Shawn Michaels (Wrestlemania XXIII) : **** 1/4


7.


"JBL, you're going to SQUEAL the words I QUIT!"

vs JBL (I Quit ; Judgment Day 2005) : **** 1/4


6.


"BYGAWD CENA HAS DONE IT AGAIN!"

vs Edge (TLC ; Unforgiven 2006) : **** 1/4


5.

"Respect."

vs CM Punk (Night of Champions 2012) : **** 1/4


4.


"Umaga's Frothing from the mouth!"

vs Umaga (Last Man Standing ; Royal Rumble 2007) : **** 1/2


3.


"There can only be one WWE Champion"

vs CM Punk (Summerslam 2011) : **** 1/2


2.


"Have we ever seen Cena manhandled like this?"

vs Brock Lesnar (Extreme Rules ; Extreme Rules 2012) : **** 3/4


1.


"Cena says NOT THIS WAY"

vs CM Punk (Money in the Bank 2011) : *****






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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

I agree with the top 2, but can't fathom the Mysterio match being on the bottom of that list. Shit that's a contender for Cena's top 5, alongside the Umaga match and then competing against the 2 HBK matches from 2007. Orton NWO 2008 match is golden, but their Summerslam 2007 match should really be on there imo ahead of both Edge matches as well as a few more on that list, namely the Backlash 4 way (good, but not better than Cena/Orton), the HBK Raw 09 match as well as as the Survivor Series 09 triple threat. Nice to see the HHH NOC 2008 match made it, always preferred it to Wrestlemania 22 aside from the Chicago crowd. Also good to see the RVD ONS match didn't make it, aside from Cena being ridiculously good in it and the ECW crowd making for a special atmosphere I've never really thought of it as one of his best matches and always get a little curious why so many list it as one of his best, memorable perhaps but certaintly not in terms of output, that being said RVD sucks pretty bad so I'm not surprised I don't really like the match all that much.

Don't really think the Batista matches should be there, much prefer the Lashley GAB 2007 match in terms of Cena working a modern day Babyface vs Babyface super main event, its also one of Cena's better career carryjobs. Both HBK matches would be ahead of the Edge TLC and the JBL I Quit match, would probably have them ahead of both Punk matches (Summerslam and NOC) as well.
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Really like that list KOK. Only things I'd change would be putting Trips/Cena from NOC and Raw above the WM one and removing the Cena/Batista match. A few star ratings differ a 1/4-1/2* but awesome list.

I have the Backlash 4-way at ****1/2. Watched the other day. Did not disappoint.



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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Meh, might as well post my top 10 for Cena:

1. Punk MITB 2011
2. Lesnar ER 2012
3. HBK Wrestlemania 23
4. Mysterio Raw 2011
5. Umaga Rumble 07
6. HBK Raw in London 07
7. Orton Summerslam 07
8. Punk Summerslam 2011
9. Orton NWO 2008
10.HHH NOC 2008
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Top 25 Cena matches (for me):

(****1/2)
1) vs. CM Punk MITB 2011
2) vs. Umaga RR 2007
3) vs. HBK Raw 2007
(****1/4)
4) vs. Edge BL 2009
5) vs. Punk SS 2011
6) vs. Edge vs. Mysterio vs. Jericho vs. Mike Knox vs. Kane WHC EC 2009
7) vs. Edge vs. HBK vs. Orton BL 2007
8) vs. JBL JD 2005
(****)
9) vs. Undertaker Smackdown 6/24/2004 (Re-watched this match yesterday, and though I have it at the same rating I did before, I hold it in much higher regard. Love it especially for Taker playing the quasi-heel role in the match)
10) vs. Edge Unforgiven 2006
11) vs. Orton SS 2007
12) vs. HBK WM23
13) vs. Undertaker Vengeance 2003
14) vs. HBK vs. HHH SVS 2009
15) vs. CM Punk NOC 2012
16) vs. Edge vs. HHH BL 2006
17) vs. Batista SS 2008
18) w/ HBK vs. Undertaker and Batista NWO 2007
19) vs. HHH NOC 2008
20) vs. CM Punk Raw 8/22/2011
21) vs. HHH Raw 2009 (4th match between the two)
(***3/4)
22) vs. HBK Raw 2009 (one where HBK wins)
23) vs. Lesnar ER 2012
24) vs. Mysterio Raw 2011
25) vs. Lashley GAB 2007

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Nice list there although mine would be very different. I think I'll be working on a top 50 for Cena since I'm rather familiar with most of his career (need to get up-to-date with 2008-2009, though). And when I finish 2000-2002 and 2005-2007, I will do a top 50 on Chris Benoit but that is going to take quite a while.

Just finished watching Eddie/Angle 2 out of 3 falls match. Pretty good and at ***1/2.

EDIT: I'll do a quick top 10 for Cena now:

1. vs Edge (Unforgiven 06)
2. vs CM Punk (Money in the Bank 11)
3. vs Brock Lesnar (Extreme Rules 12)
4. vs JBL (Judgment Day 05)
5. vs Umaga (Royal Rumble 07)
6. vs Shawn Michaels (Raw 07)
7. vs Randy Orton (No Way Out 08)
8. vs HHH (Wrestlemania 22)
9. vs Batista (SummerSlam 08)
10. vs Chris Jericho (SummerSlam 05)

I just took singles matches here.

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