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That was one I was close to suggesting, only thing that held it back for me was I couldn't remember for certain how many matches they'd had over the years. Anything from 4 or above would probably count in this criteria, and I can't recall a match of theirs being close to bad so aye that's definitely another contender.

I do think Orton/Benoit, Punk/Cena and Punk/Mysterio might be separated though just because of the number of matches they've had without any coming close to being below good.

Austin/Hart could be considered, SS 96, that South Africa match I hear many cite as a gem in their collection and of course WM 13. Still, aside from that the rest of their series is either contained in the 4 way or the Canadian Stampede tag rather than out and out singles matches.
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The Top 75 World Heavyweight Championship PPV Matches Ever : 20-11


20.


John Cena vs Edge (Last Man Standing ; Backlash 2009) : ****


19.

The Undertaker vs Batista (Last Man Standing ; Backlash 2007) : ****

18.


John Cena vs Rey Mysterio vs Mike Knox vs Edge vs Chris Jericho vs Kane (Elimination Chamber ; No Way Out 2009) : **** 1/4


17.


Christian vs Randy Orton (Streetfight ; Summerslam 2011) : **** 1/4


16.


Chris Benoit vs Kane (Bad Blood 2004) : **** 1/4


15.


Randy Orton vs Christian (Over the Limit) : **** 1/4



14.


Jeff Hardy vs CM Punk (TLC ; Summerslam 2009) : **** 1/4


13.


The Undertaker vs Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio vs R-Truth vs John Morrison vs CM Punk (Elimination Chamber ; Elimination Chamber 2010) : **** 1/4


12.


Chris Benoit vs Randy Orton (Summerslam 2004) : **** 1/4


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Batista vs The Undertaker (W/ Referee Steve Austin ; Cyber Sunday 2007) : **** 1/4
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Taker/HBK?

HIAC 97, RR 98, WM 25, WM 26

I don't remember Ground Zero 97 at all so I can't comment.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:09 PM   #7094 (permalink)
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I find the Rumble and Ground Zero matches to be average in all honesty, and I'm not a huge fan of the WM 25 encounter though it is good. HIAC and WM 26 are definitely classics though, and the exchange in the 07 Rumble can't be overlooked in terms of a mini match. But aye I'd probably lump them in the definitely terrific chemistry category, but just under those who never produced an average or below match.

FWIW I do realise this is essentially a terribly nit-picky criteria, but I do find it fun to try and see how many pairings got consistent opportunities against one another and managed to deliver every single time.
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Taker/HBK have the best chemistry in WWE History... Bar None.

IYHGZ 97 : ****
IYHBB 97 HIAC : ***** (GOAT Match , MOTY, MOTD)
RR 98 Casket : **** 1/4 (MOTY)
WM XXV : ***** (MOTY, MOTD, #3 GOAT WWE)
WM XXVI : ***** (MOTY, MOTD, #5 GOAT WWE)

One of only two pairs to have three ***** matches (the lone WWE representative) alongside Flair and Steamboat.
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I think it could've been a different story had HBK not missed 4 years due to injury. Think about how many more Taker/HBK, HBK/Austin, HBK/Foley matches we could've had, not to mention at least 1 () HBK/Rock match.
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Nice list so far, KingofKings
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Honorable mention to Rey/Jericho. Loved their feud a couple of years ago, and I'm sure they had some great WCW matches even if I can't recall anything other than Souled Out and BATB 98 (which I really enjoyed) at the moment.

edit - Jericho/HBK as well, I suppose. WM19 and they 2008 matches are all amazing.

Off topic, has anyone been more consistently amazing over the past 15-20 years than Rey Mysterio?
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Not to my recollection, its staggering how better he got since he joined WWE as he slowly adapted to his depleting athleticism and injury ridden body and slowly developed a more well rounded striking game with the occasional high spot to still keep the crowd going. Not to mention how better he got at timing and pacing his matches to perfection, throwing in some great false comebacks to keep the crowd invested and build to his eventual comeback as well as bumping and selling his arse off to get anyone and everyone over. WWE hasn't ever had a better TV match worker and his list of weekly good-great matches since 2003 and beyond is simply staggering. From Noble to Tajiri to Eddie to Finlay to Morrison to Jericho to Punk to Henry to Orton etc the list just keeps on growing.

Tenryu in Japan has been pretty awesome in the same time frame as the relentlessly violent veteran fighting anyone and everyone, but strictly in America no-one can match Mysterio for consistency. Its quite frightening how he got so much better from his WCW days where he was a dazzling high flyer with a good sense of timing, compared to what he is now: aka a complete wrestler.
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Nice batch this round K1ngofK1ngs. I actually agree with most/I'm within 1/4* of yours. My order for the batch would be:

(****1/2)
1) Orton/Christian OTL 11
(****1/4)
2) Edge/Cena BL 09
3) Taker/Batista CS 07
4) Raw EC 2009
5) Punk/Hardy SS 09
6) Orton/Christian SS 11
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7) Taker/Batista BL 07
8) Orton/Benoit SS 04
9) Benoit/Kane BB 04
10) SD EC 2010

I think I know a few matches that will be in the top 10. Taker/Angle NWO06 for sure or I'll have to kill you in your sleep (hell, I might just consider that if it's not in your top 5 ), maybe their SD match as well (since I haven't seen that yet on your list I don't think). WM20 and BL04 Triple Threats and Batista I'm sure will be on there (I'm sure you have the Mania triple threat at ***** and I think I remember seeing you put Batista/HHH at *****). So that's half the rest of the list if I'm not mistaken. The other half... er... not sure.

My WHC Top 10 would be (I think I may have posted it a short time ago, but can't remember):

(*****)
1) Taker/Angle NWO 06
(****1/2)
2) Taker/Batista WM23 (Note: Between Taker/Batista WM23 and Batista/HHH Vengeance, I can never settle on which to put over the other. Both are even in my hands for different reasons, but ultimately... and this is no secret... I naturally enjoy a Taker match more than a HHH match, which is what it comes down to right now)
3) Batista/HHH Vengeance 05
4) Benoit/HBK/HHH WM20
5) Orton/Christian OTL 11
(****1/4)
6) Taker/Angle SD06
7) Edge/Cena BL 09
8) Benoit/HBK/HHH BL 04
9) Taker/Batista CS 07
10) Raw EC 2009

Wonder if I'm missing something. I feel like I am.

Also, K1ngofK1ng's, not sure if they were included in WWE Title matches (don't remember), but maybe you could do a separate list for all the Undisputed Title matches on TV/PPV (I'm sure there can't be more than 75 of them... I think). That would be an interesting list imo. Hell, I'd probably do it if I wanted to have nightmares about Taker/HHH KOTR again.

As far as best chemistry, hands down Taker/HBK. Three classics, and worst match is still very good. Not to mention their Rumble mini-match being the best Rumble ending sequence ever imo, it's those two easily for me.
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