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post #7031 of 20566 (permalink) Old 10-08-2012, 07:08 PM
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Last time I spoke about the Austin/HHH 3SOH match some guy PM'd me in a fit asking me to politely shut the fuck up.

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Taker's 2007 to me is definitely close to HHH's 2000, HHH's highs that year are remarkable (Foley Rumble, Rock Backlash and Judgement Day, Taka SD match and Jericho LMS Fully Loaded) but Taker's series with Batista, as well as the Rumble match and exchange with HBK, the Cena/HBK vs Taker/Batista NWO Super Tag and a couple of really strong TV matches against Finlay have me thinking there's not much separating their years. HHH's highs are definitely superior overall, but there's a couple of low points (King of the Ring 6 man, Angle Unforgiven, Benoit No Mercy, Austin SS match and Armageddon HIAC).

I still think I prefer his 2005 year from an overall character perspective, such an unrelenting asshole. His 2008 is also really good as the veteran champ having a post peak year of his life, and the slow build Hardy title pursuit made for a couple of really strong matches. No Mercy 2008 is ridiculously good.
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Love the HHH/Hardy series. No Mercy is so good.

Taker/Batista is probably one of my favorite feuds in recent memory. Good call. I really need to watch that series of matches again. The only one I'm really familiar with is the Mania match.

Agreed that 2005 HHH is probably my favorite version of his character. Loved when he returned as a face, only to turn on Flair his first match back and completely decimate him. Their feud was great, and I really enjoyed the slow morph of his character into The King of Kings/tweener role in early 06.





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Every year apart from 2003 is good with me . Lol. I really need to watch that No Mercy match vs. Jeff again. I haven't seen it in ages. I'm on 2004 PPV's atm. I'll watch it when I eventually get to 2008.
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Speaking of 2004, I believe it was Yeah1993 who really pimped Hunter's performance against Eugene at Summerslam. Definitely a career highlight in terms of being the most outlandish asshole in a ring. Not a particularly 'great' match but essential viewing for HHH as the ultimate foil for a sympathetic babyface.

Cena NOC and Hardy NM are probably HHH's two strongest PPV outings in 08, not really much else of note.

I recall thinking the Wrestlemania match was one of the strongest Taker/Batista outings, though I think Cal might prefer Backlash or one of their other matches (HIAC?).
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I just watched Stone Cold's The Bottom Line and I got to say the documentary is the best I've seen from WWE. I haven't watched Rise & Fall of ECW yet, though. So it may change. And SummerSlam 04 review coming very soon, most likely tomorrow.

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I never thought Michaels and HHH had that much chemsitry, despite what you'd expect from those two. Their feuds were always the same rehashed "friend vs friend" spiel, and everything they did seemed much too forced and over the top. I don't remember the specific "stupid shit" from their Armageddon match, but it was definitely a disappointment. The HIAC, while a decent match, was built up to be some sort of epic, and it fell short as well. Their Raw 03 match and SS 02 matches were good, but the other stuff just fell short for the type of match you'd expect from two of the best in the company.

Someone please give me a rundown of the Armageddon match to refresh my memory.
Oh God, YES! I couldn't agree with what you said about the HHH/HBK feud any more. It was so forced and they were desperate at making it look so OMGITZTHEMOSTINTENSEFEUDEVER!!!111 that it ended up sucking for the most part. I personally don't hate the 3SOH match because I'm a sucker for SPOTZ~! but the match really is a mess. One example of it is when HBK and HHH are fighting on top of the steel cage in the second fall and Flair randomly comes out and sets up the tables outside the ring for the final bump in the ladder fall.

For the rest of their matches, I loved SS02, Raw 03 was good, RR04 is alright, their triple threat series with Benoit are classics (more for Benoit, though) and the HIAC match is fucking terrible and almost as boring as the HIAC with Nash. I'm yet to see TT04, though.

HHH's 03 matches:
Steiner I - * (**** for comedy)
Steiner II - * (Just boring, although the "Steiner sucks" chants cracked me up)
Booker T - *** (Average and just underwhelming with the dead crowd)
6 man tag - *1/2 (Zzzzzzzzzzz)
Nash I - 1/2* (Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
Nash II - 1/4* (Super zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
Elimination Chamber - **1/2 (Shitty booking and way too short)
Goldberg I - **1/2 (Not very bad for Goldberg standards)
Goldberg II - *1/2 (Horribly uninteresting)
Goldberg/Kane - ***1/4 (Finally something watchable)
HBK - ****

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Trips vs. Eugene at Summerslam 04 is . I adore that match lol. He's such a fucking dickhead with the Lilian grabbing and the injury faking etc. It's great fun to watch. The crowd crapping all over Eugene getting picked on makes it even better lol. It's always weird seeing HHH take a pedigree though. Looks awkward as hell.
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I completely forgot about the Eugene match

How in the world was that at a Summerslam?





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HHH, even in 2000 doesn't touch Undertaker's 2006-2009 (up to WM25). Matches with Angle and HBK>HHH's matches with Foley and Rock. Matches with Batista>Most of HHH's matches with Austin. HHH's 2000/2001 run was amazing, but Taker's was just better and had three full years at that quality imo. Gave Batista, Edge, Kennedy, and Big Show the best singles matches of their career (well... maybe Kennedy goes to HBK).

That being said, like Starbuck I won't get into a disagreement with anyone who puts HHH's 2000 over Taker's 2006-2008 (it's kinda pointless in the grand scheme of things), but it is what it is.

That being said, Taker's lowest time in match quality I'd put below HHH's.

Speaking of HHH 2000 and HHH 2003, I love how they are polar opposites of each other. The former, HHH himself was an excellent worker and always had excellent opponents. The latter, he was terrible and had terrible opponents. Kinda amazing how 2-3 years can change things that drastically, though HHH did find himself again in 2004.

Edit: Love the HHH/Eugene match. As far as pure heel performance goes for HHH, I say that's his best.

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Bad injuries + ridiculous bulk + awful opponents = horrible year.

Glad he was able to turn things around later on, though.

edit - another H/Eugene shout out. Now I definitely need to watch this. Gives me a reason to watch Orton/Benoit again too.





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Trips has fought Eugene and Khali at Summerslam. MR SUMMERSLAM DURR.

I only watched the Eugene match a week or so ago but I feel like I should watch it again for teh lulz. I love the highlight reel with Jericho before it, with Regal, Eugene and Evolution. Great segment.
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