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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

The difference in quality between the WWE list and the WHC list is...surprising really lol. Then again, the WWE title has a greater catalogue to choose from I suppose. Trips/Batista HIAC is fucking awesome though. That barbed wire steel chair? Yeouch lol.

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Yeah there are some spots in the Batista/H HIAC that look really painful. I remember reading in Batista's book that the barbed wire chair was legit and it hurt like hell.





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Problem with HHH and Shawn is that they tried too hard to make everything seem like OMGWTFBBQ epic

Their best match, the one on RAW, had no gimmick, no stip, just a title and some old fashioned wrestling

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Yeah there are some spots in the Batista/H HIAC that look really painful. I remember reading in Batista's book that the barbed wire chair was legit and it hurt like hell.
Batista got it in the back. Ouch. Trips got it in the fucking face. OUCH! Lol. I remember the spot where Trips jumps off the top rope to nail, well, nothing because he never hits any move off the top rope lol, and Batista holds the sledgehammer up and gets him in the throat. HHH spits out a whole mouthful of blood like he does his water. Looked rather sick tbh, even if it was a blood capsule lol.

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That "blood capsule" moment is the other spot that sticks out in my mind. Wasn't there a DDT to Bastita on that chair too?





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HBK/HHH 3SOH doesn't belong anywhere near the top 75. Same thing with maybe Batista/HHH BL, though with the Batista/HHH it's more of just not seeing it as that good, but not necessarily a terrible match. Definitely better than their Mania match, but nothing good. I don't sense a lot of chemistry between Batista/HHH, though I suppose the Cell match says otherwise.

And there's the Show/Henry match we've been waiting for, though I think I'd actually have it a little bit higher. I still say Taker in 2008 is easily Show's best opponent... then again Lesnar did give Show some good matches as well. No one else comes close imo.

I'd have put Edge/Ziggler higher than all the matches above it (on this particular section of the list). Such an awesome singles match and probably Edge's best of such following his return in 2010. Matches I'd personally knock down a notch (which means I don't majorly disagree with them at their ratings, just I have them a bit lower): Taker/Edge JD, Cena/Jericho Armageddon, Taker/Edge/Batista, Sheamus/Ziggler and HHH/Benoit.

Already going into the top 30? Damn, this list is flying by.

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

The Cell match in particular worked so well because of the previous matches. It built on them

The deadliness of the pedigree in particular

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Show/Taker series in 2008 was so awesome.





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Its been ages since I last watched the 3 stages of hell (christ what an apt name in context) match and have little desire to do so, but from memory I just remember there being no discernable sense of structure, layout, timing or any sense of logic. Pretty sure they were just setting up elaborate spots and huge spots without really building to them or making them matter in the overall context of the match, and it ends up just a horribly botched mess of extravegant ideas riddled with poor execution.

Their overall chemistry is pretty dire and up there as the worst in terms of top guys with a series of matches. Raw in San Antonio and the Taboo Tuesday 04 match (assuming its the one with HBK on one leg and HHH dissecting it all match) are the only two matches of their theirs I'd call very good or above. Ironically enough both are pretty much the lesser matches in terms of build and story compared to the HIAC, Streetfight, 2/3 falls and Last Man Standing match and its no surprise that in a more reserved setting they did away with all the WWE style elements of creating an 'epic' match and just focused on a smart, solid and less overblown match.

As for Batista/HHH, I recall thinking the Wrestlemania match wasn't as bad as it could have been (given Batista's ability at the time and HHH not exactly being my favourite guy to work main event 'spectacles') but its certainly well below the HIAC match which remains their best match by a country mile. Perfect blow off to a star making feud.
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

In HHH's last match he should definitely hit a move from the top rope, just something in wrestling we all need to see

Maybe a shooting star press :hhh

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