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Old 10-05-2012, 01:45 PM   #6821 (permalink)
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Hart was nowhere near as great in WCW like he was in WWF but I always thought Bret/Flair from Souled Out 1998 was overlooked. On first watch years ago I was impressed by it because I had no expectations going in and they did a good job. Bret/Benoit from Mayhem 1999 is solid too but not at the level of the Owen Tribute match from Nitro in October. Check out Bret/Hennig from Uncensored '98. Bret and Curt always had fantastic chemistry but I'd recommend their WWF matches in the late 80s-early 90s first. Guess you can check out Bret/Savage from Slammboree 98 too.
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I also enjoy his match with Sting on Nitro (1999) and to an extent the one at Halloween Havoc 1998 too,

Wonder if any WCW matches will be on Bret's Unreleased Set, i havn't seen the ones with Flair and Savage from WCW myself....
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:52 PM   #6822 (permalink)
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Just finished the Punk doc. Really enjoyable watch which surprised me as I'm not the biggest Punk fan in the world.
The Miz stuff bothered me a bit because it showed real sour grapes and Miz had worked damn hard to get into that position.

Certainly respect Punk a lot more after seeing this and the Doc as a whole was very well done and I would definitely rank it amongst the best docs put out by WWE
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:55 PM   #6823 (permalink)
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Watched the Punk DVD. It was good but maybe because he's already told his story through RF shoots, I didn't think it was one of the greatest DVDs ever. Two things that irked me: the excuses people (Hayes tries to sway the blame on others in charge but he was one of them but has gotten over it over the years) would make up for why he wasn't what they were looking for. Hayes is basically Jeff Hardy's Paul Heyman and should be the last person to say that someone shouldn't get a better spot because of their appearance.
They were basically finding any reason to keep the guy down simply because they weren't found of him personally, not professionally.
The other thing that bothered me was the sour grapes with the Miz. Get the fuck over it. You're "up here" now and he's "down there". Homeboy needs therapy.
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:03 PM   #6824 (permalink)
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Don't get the "hate" for what he said about Miz tbh. Sour grapes? Maybe, but imo he was extremely justified because Miz has never and likely will never be deserving of the title and the main event spot at WM (and he proved it with his terrible reign and the awful WM match), PLUS, its not like he's the first person to complain about someone being in THAT spot over them. Austin did the same thing on his doc during the WCW part. Benoit and Eddie did it on their docs... also during the WCW part (lol). Loads of people have done it.

I'm just surprised (in a good way) that they let him essentially vent so much on the documentary. Gave it a far more real feel that helped make it one of the best docs I've seen.
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:14 PM   #6825 (permalink)
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Since it's on youtube, I might just watch the Punk documentary just to see what all the buzz is about.

I've not seen so many of the docs but these are the ones I have seen:

Randy Orton (Evolution of a Predator)
John Cena (My Life)
Eddie Guerrero (Cheating Death, Stealing Life)
Edge (You Think You Know Me)
Chris Benoit (Hard Knocks)
The Rock (Epic Journey of Dwayne Johnson)

Don't remember any others but I'm downloading Stone Cold's Bottom Line right now and think I'm off to youtube to watch Punk's. Out of the ones I listed, my favorites were Benoit and Orton's.

On my list of ones I want to check out later are Rise and Fall of ECW, John Cena Experience, Bret Hart/HBK Screwjob and maybe Jake Roberts too.
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I agree with Cal tbh, the Miz comment can definitely read as un-needed in the grand scheme of the interview, but it served to emphasise Punk's disapproval with the company's philosophy with regards to top stars and his argument that no-one having a justifiable explanation for why Miz had usurped him felt like a strong reasoning for accentuating his impending 'pipebomb' promo and whole contract saga. I mean for a 'personal documentary' he could have really torn into Miz and gone about how much of an injustice he felt it was, but it served as a nice way to emphasise his belief he earned the top spot (especially as they focused on the formation and collapse of the SES prior to it) whilst acknowlodging Punk's well documented frustration at that point in time.

Found the Mercury story especially touching. I'd heard about Mercury's personal troubles but never would have expected Punk to have gone as far as he did in helping him try and get back on his feet. Not that I doubt Punk wouldn't go the extra mile for his friends, its just that personal sacrifice he made is exceptionally extraordinary under any circumstances.
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Old 10-05-2012, 03:41 PM   #6827 (permalink)
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Thanks for the Youtube-Link of the Punk Docu!!
It was AWESOME.

I never thought I would be that surprised.
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I watched the Punk Documentary last night I think it was the best documentary that WWE has produced in a while. About the Miz thing I don't think Punk should be to upset about that situation. Miz's bout with Cena was awful and the focal point of the entire feud wasn't the Miz it was the Rock's involvement with Cena. No doubt Punk would have been overshadowed by the Rock. His match and feud with Cena at the MITB was far more memorable and engaging than the Wrestlemania 27 main event.
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Highspots bought the right to use the footage they didn't buy exclusive use of it. Ian sold off the IWA library with the company name a few years ago. WWE most likely paid Smartmarkvideo for the rights to the footage. Although I did find it strange that they gave credit to ROH for their footage but nothing was done in regards to the IWA, JCW footage they showed.
Oh right, thanks for explaining that. I already found it strange reading they paid Ian to use the footage. And I noticed the same about the credit thing on ROH footage but not the IWA footage.
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Watched the Punk DVD. It was good but maybe because he's already told his story through RF shoots, I didn't think it was one of the greatest DVDs ever. Two things that irked me: the excuses people (Hayes tries to sway the blame on others in charge but he was one of them but has gotten over it over the years) would make up for why he wasn't what they were looking for. Hayes is basically Jeff Hardy's Paul Heyman and should be the last person to say that someone shouldn't get a better spot because of their appearance.
They were basically finding any reason to keep the guy down simply because they weren't found of him personally, not professionally.
The other thing that bothered me was the sour grapes with the Miz. Get the fuck over it. You're "up here" now and he's "down there". Homeboy needs therapy.
Why is everyone complaining about him talking about Miz? He's over it now, he's just talking about his frustration with the company then. It's the same as him talking about the SES, he's just saying one of the reasons he was pissed at the company. Plus, he's sort of justified. If it had come out at that time that Punk was pissed, people would be sucking his dick. If you look at the storyline at that point, it made more sense for Punk to face Cena at 'Mania. Punk led Nexus and was feuding with Cena and never really had a blowoff. If you would've asked anybody on this forum who was the best heel in WWE at this point, the consensus would be Punk. But if people need a reason to bitch so be it..
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