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Old 10-03-2012, 06:09 PM   #6691 (permalink)
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I say go for it. I'm not sure how familiar others on the forum are with that I think someone tried to start something similar to that a couple months ago and didn't get much of a response, but I'm now interested in what you present.
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Old 10-03-2012, 06:13 PM   #6692 (permalink)
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Sweet, I did do one ages back in OW but it took off to limited success and then nose-dived, but christ that section is utter dross these days so I'd rather rest my laurels with this new section and pray some of the wiser heads in here contribute. I'll try and get a few reviews up sometime tomorrow and then make the thread so people have a bit to go on, pretty sure a few will be interested to see Finlay and Davey Boy in their younger days as well as get introductions to people who are precursors to Finlay and William Regal.
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Old 10-03-2012, 06:23 PM   #6693 (permalink)
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But your name's not Eddie Guerrero, or Jerry Lawler, or Dick Murdoch, or Terry Funk, or Yoshiaki Fujiwara, or Genichiro TENRYU (capitalised for added awesomeness), or Toshiaki Kawada, or Ric Flair, or Finlay, or El Satanico. I could go on

Also whilst I have you in conversation, what's the exact rules per se with the classic section? Would I be permitted to make a World of Sport (British Wrestling from the 70s-late 80s) Discussion thread since it is classic wrestling, or would it be unwise and is the section more geared towards classic US territories rather than all forms of wrestling? I say this knowing full well I'll probably fail like Craig trying to go sober with keeping the thread updated with regular match reviews depending on how job hunting goes, but would rather ask here instead of a PM.
I love World of Sports, if you start a discussion thread for it, it might end up being the only section i ever post in, The grapple wrestling used by Davey Boy, FInlay, Regal is the best i had ever seen, then you have the big guys like Big Daddy and Haystack not great wrestling but very fun to watch, also you have likes of Kendo Nagasaki and Smammy lee putting on great matches to. great fun to watch.
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Old 10-03-2012, 06:29 PM   #6694 (permalink)
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There's an array of top quality matches and wrestlers as you said. I personally wouldn't be concentrating on the heavyweights but as you said that's not to say there isn't something to be had from watching their bouts.

Still between Steve Grey, Johnny Saint, Jim Breaks, Clive Myers, Terry Rudge, Marty Jones, Adrian Street, Clive Thompson, Alan Sarjeant amongst others you get a beautiful mix of stiff striking wrestling, tremendous matwork and grappling and some very subtle and intelligent stories developing in matches, whether its a veteran versus a young rookie, a face/face title match which gradually breaks down into a heated fight etc there's something for various wrestling fans.

Its also really disheartening to see how simple and toned down US matwork and grappling is compared to the European and Lucha counterparts. Its hard to watch some of the more 'pimped' American technicians and hear the commentators praising the matwork when they're getting outshined by even the most basic Lucha and British wrestlers, let alone the supreme workers. That's not to say the US form of grappling cannot be entertaining or work its way into the story of a match..but watching WOS, Lucha and Puro Shoot Style can leave you rather unimpressed in comparison.
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Old 10-03-2012, 06:45 PM   #6695 (permalink)
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Another huge from me on this idea.
Ive just recently gotten ESPN classic (the uk version) on my tv package and have been seriously loving watching old WOS stuff on Sid Waddells Wrestling Show every saturday afternoon. Had very vague memories of seeing it as a kid, took a little while to get used to the super clean technical style but once you do its addictive viewing.
Been hitting youtube for fixes too but the problem is finding detailed info on how it developed apart from the Wiki page on UK wrestling, noticing certain guys standing out like Rollerball Rocco and Marty Jones, the history seems kinda fuzzy between Joint promotions and All Star, Regals recent AOW had some nuggets too,so yeah a defintive thread would be most welcome.
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FWIW I think Marty Jones will likely be the guy most noobs would soon find to be the breakout star. He's a very obvious precursor to Regal and mixes in some swank chain wrestling with some meaty strikes and stiff shots. He's not as good a grappler as some of the lightweight/catchweight guys but he's good enough to impress folk whilst retaining the advantage of working a more vicious and violent match within the spirit of the rules. I could see a lot of people digging the 1984 Jones vs Finlay bout as well as his matches against Dynamite Kid (I loathe DK in most settings but he's awesome in this match) and the 1987 Owen Hart bout. Feels like they bring in elements of US wrestling whilst still clinging to enough WOS attributes for it to get over with the British crowd.

This isn't to say I could see people disliking the more grapple heavy bouts you associate with Steve Grey and co, but I do think Jones has more of a transcendent appeal in his style compared to others who are inherently British in their approach.

I found a ton of matches from another forum where a guy did a similar project, I'm not greatly familiar with the history of WOS but it would appear the golden era is anytime between 1972 and 1985. By about 1986 and 87 it appears Joint Promotions slowly fizzled out and the other main promotion began to become more prominent, only their style of wrestling was far weaker and ensured the consistent standard of quality rapidly declined.

Oh and Jim Breaks could easily capture a few hearts. A very american approach in making his insufferable and obnoxious character a figure in a lot of his grappling and ensuring a right balance between stellar grappling and top notch character work to retain the heat and put over his opponents. His work against Adrian Street, Johnny Saint and Young Davey (British Bulldog) is mightly impressive in particular.

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Old 10-03-2012, 06:54 PM   #6697 (permalink)
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The Top 100 WWE Championship Matches Ever : 10-7


10.


"Look at Undertaker's cut.... Very graphic"

Brock Lesnar vs The Undertaker (Hell in a Cell ; No Mercy 2002) : **** 3/4


9.


"Michaels working the HAND of Mankind!"

Shawn Michaels vs Mankind (In Your House Mind Games) : **** 3/4


8.


"Bah gawd! What a vicious suplex!"

Steve Austin vs Kurt Angle (Summerslam 2001) : **** 3/4


7.


"Vince Mcmahon would have said... Who the HEEEELLLLLL is CM Punk ? and who the HEEEELLLLLLLLLL is Daniel Bryan? And then his head would have exploded"

CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan (Over the Limit 2012) : **** 3/4



Next post it'll be 6-4, then 3-2, then number one.... Which will be extremely obvious but whatever.... A WWE championship match in the top 7 that took place THIS YEAR?!?!?!?! Let the madness begin.

On a side note... Just finished my last WHC PPV match, so LISTAMANIA's gonna continue.... In the name of the father , of the son in law :hhh , and of the holy cashcow :cena ..... AMEN !
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Old 10-03-2012, 06:57 PM   #6698 (permalink)
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Oh and Jim Breaks could easily capture a few hearts. A very american approach in making his insufferable and obnoxious character a figure in a lot of his grappling and ensuring a right balance between stellar grappling and top notch character work to retain the heat and put over his opponents. His work against Adrian Street, Johnny Saint and Young Davey (British Bulldog) is mightly impressive in particular.
Indeed, that Davey Boy match was just on that Sid waddell show last week, Jims subtly comedic ways of getting heat and OTT facials were a joy to watch, he reminds me of an asshole PE teacher.
Another recuring thing Ive noticed in them is whenever a guy seems especially polished the commentator will always mention he's just returned from a stint at Stampede in Calgary.
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I'll take a guess on matches that'll make the top 6. Cena/Punk MITB obviously, Austin/Rock WM17, I assume (and hope) that Angle/Benoit RR03 will make the cut. And is it only PPV matches? Because otherwise, matches such as Austin/Benoit on Raw or Lesnar/Angle Ironman should be included.
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