[TheWFEffect]

Originally Posted by Starbuck

I wasn't referring specifically to promo videos because they are one of the better things about the shows these days imo. I meant the actual content of the promos I suppose. I mean, that 2004 RR promo wasn't just about the numbers of the match or the fact that anybody could win and would get their Mania shot. There were stories within the promo. There was something tangible in it. Nowadays we just get DURR GET GUD NUMBER WIN DA RUMBLE. They had a story for Benoit set up, they had guys interacting with each other, they had the Raw vs. SD thing going on, the had the general manages rooting for their brands, they had JR making everything mean something. When I said that WWE today is rather artificial, that's what I meant. We all know the Rumble is important etc but it doesn't feel half as important or special today as it did in the past. It's important because WWE tells us its important, not because we are connected to a particular set of characters, any one of which could go on to win the thing and experience their dream. If any of that makes sense lol. WWE today = artificial and manufactured emotions connected to the product through poor storytelling and booking. WWE then = real and tangible emotions connected to the product through great storytelling and booking. You felt it because you felt it, not because WWE told you to.

As a mod now you need to get out your Mr Mcmahon avatar and signature.

[Starbuck]

Originally Posted by TheWFEffect

As a mod now you need to get out your Mr Mcmahon avatar and signature.

Don't worry, I'll have it back up again at some stage lol.

[Choke2Death]

Originally Posted by Kane-UK

How do you propose they do it without actually showing Benoit?

WWE (quite rightly) don't want to show Benoit in any kind of glory and by acknowledging his Royal Rumble achievement on-screen, they would be doing just that.

Just be thankful they haven't rewritten history and said HBK is the only person to do it.

I checked out the 2007 promo a few hours ago and that one is a good example. They don't specify "So and so have won from this number" and make it just a bunch of statistics. It's just a well done video that shows a lot of things that have taken place at the Royal Rumble, including epic endings, Kane destroying everyone in 2001 and so on. Just generally hyping the show up to be something that we get once in a year and should be excited about. With the statistic video, it is barely hyping up the event itself, it's just displaying a bunch of statistics, updated every year to include the previous year. And they make it clear that only 2 have won from #1, the same amount as #30 but they just show 3 people which handicaps it.

[Brye]

CM Punk vs John Morrison - ECW 9/4/07 - ****

Shit is awesome. I enjoyed their little feud as a whole but this was really a perfect way to end the storyline.

[Jbardo]

Originally Posted by Brye

CM Punk vs John Morrison - ECW 9/4/07 - ****

Shit is awesome. I enjoyed their little feud as a whole but this was really a perfect way to end the storyline.

Really glad this made it on Punks DVD, had such a big match feel to it.

[Oliver-94]

Watched Rickie Steamboat vs Randy Savage (WM 3) yesterday. Wow! what a match! great storytelling, commentary and psychology.

Anyone know any great 1980s matches?

[Jbardo]

Originally Posted by Oliver-94

Watched Rickie Steamboat vs Randy Savage (WM 3) yesterday. Wow! what a match! great storytelling, commentary and psychology.

Anyone know any great 1980s matches?

The Flair/Steamboat trilogy from 1989 are a must watch.

[Ether]

Benoit vs Austin 2/15/01: *** 3/4. Nonstop action, wish they focused less on HHH/Austin though

Benoit vs Austin 5/28/01: **** 1/4. Crowd and JR's commentary really added to the match. at Hebner pushing Vince down then getting stunnered. Aftermath was nice as well.

Checking out the 5/31 match soon

[FandanGOAT]

Originally Posted by Oliver-94

Watched Rickie Steamboat vs Randy Savage (WM 3) yesterday. Wow! what a match! great storytelling, commentary and psychology.

Anyone know any great 1980s matches?

WWF
Randy Savage vs. Hulk Hogan - Take your pick, most of them were really good.
Randy Savage vs. Ultimate Warrior - WrestleMania 7 was out-fucking-standing and their Summerslam match isn't that bad either. (This is from 1991, though - not the 1980's, still worth the watch)
Hulk Hogan vs. The Ultimate Warrior - WrestleMania 6
Randy Savage vs. Bret Hart - Saturday Night's Main Event 1987

NWA/AWA/Other
Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat - 1989 trilogy
Magnum T.A vs. Tully Blanchard - I Quit Steel Cage Match from Starrcade '85
Ric Flair Vs. Ted Dibiase - Mid-South - 1985
Curt Hennig vs. Nick Bockwinkle - AWA 1986
Tully Blanchard vs. Ricky Steamboat - Starrcade '84

Those are just a handful of a massive amount of great 80's matches.

[Choke2Death]

I really need to check out some Flair stuff from his prime. I am only familiar with his WWE run from the last decade so it's fair to say I have some catching up to find out how great he really is.

And finished downloading The Rock/Cena DVD by torrent since I couldn't use any of the links at multimedia because of the premium/free limitations.