[JOAL.com]

Originally Posted by KingCal

WM 21:

Eddie/Rey - Urgh. Worst. Eddie Match. Ever.
MITB I - Best. MITB Match. Ever.
Undertaker/Orton - Great great match, though their weakest PPV match imo, which says something about their series as a whole.
Trish/Christy - LOL.
HBK/Angle - Great great match, and just slightly better than Undertaker/Orton for me now, though about 2 weeks ago I would have said Undertaker/Orton was a little better.
Show/Sumo Guy - LOL.
Cena/JBL - LOL.
Batista/HHH - Decent match, great moment for Batista.

I thought you hated HBK/Angle

[Callamus]

Originally Posted by redeadening

I thought you hated HBK/Angle

Never hated the match, always rated it around ****1/4, but there were parts I really didn't like which prevented me from thinking it was a 5 star classic and GOAT like a lot of people do. The back work that ends up going nowhere still annoys the fuck out of me, but the Ankle Lock stuff actually made sense to me when I watched it a couple of weeks ago.

[sharkboy22]

Originally Posted by KingCal

Never hated the match, always rated it around ****1/4, but there were parts I really didn't like which prevented me from thinking it was a 5 star classic and GOAT like a lot of people do. The back work that ends up going nowhere still annoys the fuck out of me, but the Ankle Lock stuff actually made sense to me when I watched it a couple of weeks ago.

I also rate Angle/Michaels around the **** star range. As a matter of fact, I probably have it no more than ****. It's nowhere near ***** for me because of those same reasons you listed. But the match that jus sucked between these two for me is the 30 minute iron man match. Good Lord, it's an average match at is best and I probably give it ***1/2

[Callamus]

Didn't think their Iron Man match sucked (and giving it ***1/2 for a match you thought sucked is a little... odd ), but agreed it was average. A match that DID suck between them was this one:

Kurt Angle Vs Shawn Michaels - Raw 16/01/2006

Angle got beat last week in the tag match thanks to Shawn, then he went to SD and became WHC. LOL.

Oh, and if HBK loses, he s fired.

Raw might have the more "unpredictable" feeling being live, but at least SD can edit shit so matches don't start during a commercial fucking break. Only on the third Raw of the year and its already happened like, 3 times lol.

Typical back and forth stuff that you would expect based on their previous matches, until Divari gets involved and causes HBK to fall out of the ring. He gets superkicked for his troubles, but Angle runs up behind HBK and hits the Angle Slam (his finisher btw) on THE FLOOR. Oh joy, commercial break... and the match is still going because a finisher on the floor isn't enough.

Speaking of finishers not being enough... an Angle Slam from the fucking ropes doesn't even end it. Only one thing to do now, random Ankle Lock! And yep, there it is lol! HBK escapes a few attempts, but Angle finally locks it in as Divari looks on and laughs... only to get slapped in the face. Poor guy keeps getting his face attacked, so he runs in with a chair, accidentally hits Angle with it allowing Michaels to get the win.

Yeah, didn't like this at all. Angle is as dumb as ever and honestly HBK doesn't really bring... anything to the match to try and save it either, other than a couple of shots to Divari just for the hell of it. Can't believe I gave this ***1/2 before...

Rating: 1/2*

[JOAL.com]

It has Kurt and Shawn. By mathematical logic it should be atleast 5 stars

[Chismo]

Angle/HBK from Mania is a damn fucking awesome match. I have it at ****3/4. It's maybe too high for some, but the storytelling simply smokes all the flaws.

Btw, I hate when smarks take apart a match (moves mostly), and go "Why did he go that route, why did he do this instead of that, he should've stay here instead of going there, he needed to duck/block it, he did a C before B, etc." It's hilarious really, because people complain about storytelling and talk about spot monkeys, and at the same time they write about SPOTS in their reviews. Mostly. Double standards suck.

[JOAL.com]

Spots are pretty awesome. id be lying if i said otherwise. Triple H spinebusting Taker through the table was fricking epic

But they need context though. Like Taker vs Edge TLC match.

It was just spots, and setting up spots. It was retarded

[Razor King]

Angle/Michaels from 'Mania 21 is a classic. Their other matches suck. A lot of people like and prefer their Vengeance 2005 match; personally, I've never witnessed a more boring and uninspiring match from Michaels than that one.

Batista/Hunter at 'Mania 21 isn't great from a wrestling standpoint, but it's a monumental match because it defined the term of elevating somebody to the main picture of WWE and garnering a true moment for a wrestler. The entire feud is the greatest "put-over" feud I've ever seen. I like their feud a lot and all their matches have been very good to me, with the HIAC match being an absolute classic and my MOTY for 2005.

On the Angle talk, his best match is the one against Michaels; then there is Rumble '03 and the Austin match from SummerSlam '01. The match against 'Taker at NWO '06 such an epic match. Let's also not forget the Iron Man match against Lesnar. I'm also fond of the Unforgiven '02 match against Benoit, the subsequent tag team match at No Mercy 2002, and Angle's title defense against Triple H at Rumble '01.

[JOAL.com]

Best Kurt Angle match is vs Undertaker. Easily. What a match. Definition of a title classic

Hate his Royal Rumble match with Benoit though. Not because of the spottiness, mainly since it wasnt spotty. It was a clinic. unfortunately for me it was too clinical. Halfway through I started wondering if I was watching two guys fight or ballet

[A-DoubleBaby!]

Originally Posted by redeadening

Best Kurt Angle match is vs Undertaker. Easily. What a match. Definition of a title classic

Hate his Royal Rumble match with Benoit though. Not because of the spottiness, mainly since it wasnt spotty. It was a clinic. unfortunately for me it was too clinical. Halfway through I started wondering if I was watching two guys fight or ballet

Agreed on Angle/Taker being Kurt's best match(singles at least) and I'd have Kurt/Austin from Summerslam 01 at number 2.

As for the Benoit match, I do love it, and I do think it's one of Angle's best matches. However, I do wish those two would've had a match with a real face/heel dynamic. Seemed as though every time those two locked up, they did the whole competitive/who's the better wrestler etc etc type of match.