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post #5721 of 20566 (permalink) Old 09-03-2012, 04:52 PM
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I totally agree with Bryan giving Miz the best match of his career. It's arguable Bryan also gave Ziggler and Punk (well at least in WWE) their best matches as well. What WWE is currently doing with his character is entertaining although I prefer some more serious feuds for him eventually. Nice write-up for the set. I won't be picking it up, though.


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Huh, I'm... not excited to read that . A documentary between 2 shitty wrestlers about their shitty feud being different from the shitty documentary they already did on their shitty feud doesn't interest me. What are the odds of THAT?
Let's be serious now. Sure, it has that Cena bloke involved so the greatness level drops slightly. But it's about a feud involving the single greatest man to ever be part of the professional wrestling industry. He's The Rock. He wrestles, sets records, makes movies, and stops robberies. I don't think his life could get any better. And he's more entertaining that that undead guy you like so much

Anyways, the backstage stuff interests me a great deal!

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I saw the words 'single greatest man to ever be a part of the professional wrestling industry' but the post did not imply this man was one of Eddie Guerrero, Terry Funk, Jerry Lawler, Yoshiaki Fujiwara, Rey Mysterio, Finlay, Stan Hansen, Volk Han, Kiyoshi Tamura, Ricky Steamboat, Ric Flair, Bobby Eaton, Ricky Morton, Bill Dundee, Toshiaki Kawada, Genichiro Tenryu, Barry Windham, Buddy Rose or Arn Anderson. WHAT IS THIS SHIT!!

Anyways, the latest WWE match that I'll 100% include on my Top 100 Matches (Worldwide) of the Decade (2000-2009) ballot:


Matt Hardy vs Finlay - (WWE Smackdown 06/22/2007)

Tremendous, tremendous match which right now could end up as high as my top 50, I loved it that much. Hardy might be one of the most underrated workers of the decade at least in the WWE because people either remember him for his Hardy Boyz days or his supposed mental breakdown in recent years, but in 2006-2008 especially he was having regularly good-great matches with a variety of opponents and he's in no way carried by Finlay here. There's some great little character moments here that you come to expect in Finlay matches, things like them struggling to force a break in a lock-up in the corner and Finlay trying to intimidate Hardy who motions him to 'bring it on', just really set the stage for what was to occur. Finlay throws a couple of vicious World of Sport esque forearms when Hardy goes for consecutive arm wringers, and Hardy's sell of the first one was Fujiwara esque: just collapses and stumbles into the ropes like his legs have just crumbled beneath him. Match really takes off however when Hardy gets yanked off the tope rope and lands awkwardly on his knee, which Cole and JBL point out took 10 months off of his career in 2004. Finlay is meticulous and devastating on offence with a variety of unique takedowns and submissions targeting the leg, but Hardy's selling is legit one of the finest selling performances I've seen in this time period. He just constantly hobbles and barely puts any pressure on the left leg, there's this one super moment where he goes to clothesline Finlay and essentially just collapses into him as he attempts to move a couple of yards. Finlay's entire control segment is just incredibly engaging with him being a vicious bastard and doing various unique touches to sell his desire to cripple Hardy, stuff like him removing the knee brace and finding ways to utilise every part of the ringside area such as a nifty spot where he just launches Hardy knee first into the steps and then has this awesome forced apology to the referee. Finish is excellent with them teasing a Finlay screwjob via the shillelagh only for Hardy to catch a cocky Finlay with a sudden twist of fate for the flash victory.

Incredible selling performance from Hardy complimented by a unique and vicious workover by Finlay, both men brought the violence with some tremendous strikes (Hardy throws this AWESOME punch combo which has Finlay rocking against the ropes) and just lay the match out with some excellent character traits that develop as the match progresses. Everything you can want in a wrestling match and will definitely do well on my list.
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Hardy/Finlay really blew me away when I watched it last week (I think- sometime in August anyway). I think it suffered from missing a bit of a proper finish stretch but those two just mesh so well together and it was a truly great match. Honestly other than Cena/Umaga I'd probably put it next to any WWE match of 2007. Finlay/Rey from November might be just as good. Motherfuckin' FINLAY.

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Random ratings:

Survivor Series 2007: Batista vs Undertaker - ***3/4
Armageddon 2007: Randy Orton vs Chris Jericho - ***1/4
Judgement Day 2008: John Cena vs JBL - *
Armageddon 2008: Batista vs Randy Orton - **1/4
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Hardy/Finlay really blew me away when I watched it last week (I think- sometime in August anyway). I think it suffered from missing a bit of a proper finish stretch but those two just mesh so well together and it was a truly great match. Honestly other than Cena/Umaga I'd probably put it next to any WWE match of 2007. Finlay/Rey from November might be just as good. Motherfuckin' FINLAY.
I could understand the abrupt finish maybe being a bit anti-climatic, but in this instance I actually thought it added to the leg injury Hardy was selling and came off like a desperation move to end the match rather than try to fight what was slowly becoming an impossible battle.

Watched a series of Finlay/Mysterio matches from 2007 the other week, best of the bunch was the 9/11/07 bout and it'll be between that and the 3/24/06 match between them which makes my eventual list.
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Yeah, I think that's about as good an explanation for a quick finish as any, but it sort of made Finlay look, IDK, not "weak", but if he's tearing a leg for a million minutes and loses after one move. IDK. I'm not sure I actually would rate it any higher with a stronger ending, so IDK where I'm going with this. It's a great, great match. Three IDKs.

I watched 3/24/06 recently as well as part of 2006 SD viewing (JBL's US Title celebration was magnificent BTW) and it so holds up. Dunno which Rey/Finlay I'd say is the best one. Finlay/Hardy is probably better than all of them.

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Yeah I understand Finlay could have been made out to look a fool, but I kinda dig that in wrestling when its done right. E.G Benjamin vs Maven from New Years Revolution 2005 is just incredibly poorly done in making the heel look a bit foolish and undeservedly arrogant, with Hardy/Finlay I think they just about covered it what with the Hornswoggle distraction and shillelagh being a staple of Finlay finishes regularly to the point that I bought it as the finish only to have Hardy catch Finlay out when he was overcome with arrogance.


I haven't been able to track down 3/24 yet so I'm going off of memory. Tbh I probably wouldn't disagree with Hardy/Finlay being better than any of the Mysterio/Finlay bouts. Guess it just depends on how well Finlay does offence wise and how well Mysterio bumps and works his hope spots in. But Hardy's performance especially makes it unlikely Mysterio/Finlay would top it.
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Finlay v Mysterio (No Mercy 07) = **3/4
Finlay v Mysterio (Cyber Sunday 07) = ***3/4
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