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Old 09-03-2012, 01:41 AM   #5711 (permalink)
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Yea man Stone Cold and Bret had some outstanding matches. They had a really good pair of matches, starting with Survivor Series 96. Haven't seen it in a minute, but it stood out to me as the more technical masterpiece. This is exactly what I love about Austin and his ability to work in two very different eras, and do it perfectly. Wasn't this match wrestled mostly between the ropes? Love the ending. You should probably check it out if you haven't.

Austin-Hart, Survivor Series, ****3/4

And, of course, you have the juggernaut that is WrestleMania 13 (only decent match on the card if I remember?). This is definitely the brawl of the two. (TANGENT: Funny to think about the contrast here in relation to other feuds. Angle/Lesnar. HBK/Bret even (The Screw Job was a hell of a brawl too!) A lot of great feuds have a lot of contrast between matches). But this match is just timeless for me, because everytime I watch it and Bret Hart has Stone Cold in the Sharpshooter, and the blood running down Austins face? That, to me, as nauseatingly cliche as I will be, is the definition of professional wrestling. The double-cross. The fact that Stone Cold was shot into the stratosphere pretty much because of this match. I have no problem giving this *****.
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Old 09-03-2012, 04:51 AM   #5712 (permalink)
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Speaking of Armageddon and Jericho's post-HBK matches, what does everyone think of his matches with Cena in late 08?

I have the Survivor Series match at ***1/2 and have yet to see the Armageddon one. I think it's pretty stupid that Cena got a title shot out of nowhere, though. Was there ever an explanation on screen as to why he would just come back and get a title match?
I believe Shane McMahon gave Cena the title shot at Survivor Series to piss off Stephanie. They were having a mini sibling rivalry over being the Raw GM at that time iirc before it all led to Orton/McMahons at the start of 2009. He basically got a title shot because the PPV was in Boston and he's John Cena lol.
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Old 09-03-2012, 04:57 AM   #5713 (permalink)
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Austin-Hart is indeed one of the greatest feuds of any promotion of all time, purely for the fact that it was the first time in recent memory of a heel turning face just by being himself. Austin I believe was at his absolute best here, with his character a revelation. Gnashing away at authority figures like Gorilla Monsoon lent a real vibe also, along with people semi-involved in the storyline, like Undertaker, Sid, HBK, Owen, Bulldog etc. If you have the chance to watch this feud as far as going to watch every segment it offered, then do it.

Austin-Hart (Survivor Series 96) - ****
Austin-Hart (Wrestlemania 13) - *****
Austin-Hart (In Your House) - ****
Austin, Goldust, Shamrock and LOD vs. Hart Foundation (Canadian Stampede) - *****
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Austin-Hart (Survivor Series 96) - ***** (my fav)
Austin-Hart (South Africa 96) - ****
Austin-Hart (Wrestlemania 13) - *****
Austin-Hart (In Your House) - I don't remember this much
Austin, Goldust, Shamrock and LOD vs. Hart Foundation (Canadian Stampede) - ****
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I believe Shane McMahon gave Cena the title shot at Survivor Series to piss off Stephanie. They were having a mini sibling rivalry over being the Raw GM at that time iirc before it all led to Orton/McMahons at the start of 2009. He basically got a title shot because the PPV was in Boston and he's John Cena lol.
And what did Jericho do to deserve this? They can't even bother to give a proper explanation...

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I have the full five stars on Lesnar/Guerrero. Absolutely love everything about it.
Amazing match, there's just a little something that's missing which keeps it from 5 stars for me. One of my favorite parts is when Eddie reaches out to the sky in a Bearhug (I think) to make a comeback. Pretty touching.
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Daniel Bryan Superstar Collection

Daniel Bryan vs Chris Jericho NXT 02/23/2010

Itís funny to think that such a dream match was on NXT, out of the 2 years of NXT action this is the one match I remember most. I had followed both guysí careers (being huge fans of both of them) and I had hoped that if Bryan ever signed with the WWE these guys would face off. At the time this was a huge rub for Bryan because Jericho was the reigning World Heavyweight Champion, how many rookies get to face the World Heavyweight Champion in their first match?

This was a great little match here, which showcased what these guys are capable of doing with such little time, and to the mainstream WWE audience why many people including myself think that Daniel Bryan is the best wrestler in the world. The bump on the announce table was just plain nasty, and the bruising showed instantly. The chemistry was great as you would expect from these two and hopefully one day they will tie it up on a big stage. I say Daniel Bryan vs Chris Jericho Wrestlemania 29. Not exactly the best match in NXT history due to time constraints, but without a doubt the memorable thatís for sure.

** 3/4

United States Championship: The Miz(c) vs Daniel Bryan Night of Champions 2010

Firstly, I canít think of a more underrated feud in recent memory then this one, and quite honestly this was my feud of the year for 2010. This is one time I believe that the WWE genuinely booked a rivalry to near perfection and probably the only time I was looking forward to a US title match the most on a pay per view card.

This was a great match which you expect when Daniel Bryan is involved, but kudos to Miz he really held his own in this one. This was the kind of match that Miz needed to justify his main event run later on in the year, as he went move-for-move with the best technical wrestler in the world. The arm and shoulder psychology by Miz was spot on and as you would expect from Bryan his selling was immaculate. Just all around great stuff from two of the future stars of the business, and easily in my mind the best singles match in the career of the Miz.

*** 3/4

Money in the Bank Ladder Match: Daniel Bryan vs Cody Rhodes vs Wade Barrett vs Kane vs Heath Slater vs Justin Gabriel vs Sheamus vs Sin Cara Money in the Bank 2011

This was a great MITB ladder match which definitely was helped with the extra time given, and kudos to the WWE they gave 25 minutes for this match to showcase all the young talent they have on arguably one of the most anticipated PPVís in recent memory. The thing I liked most about this match is that they legitimately gave every star in the match equal time in control and look like they could potentially win the match. Also I love how they played off old storylines such as the Corre working together and then turning their backs on each other once Barrett became a power hungry leader again. Itís interesting that the two biggest wins of Bryanís career at that point both came in Chicago. You could see the genuine emotion on his face when he brought down the contract, this was a guy who had sacrificed 12 years of his life for this profession and was only one match away from winning a title that no one ever thought he would achieve. Probably one of the best MITB ladder matches ever, it was just a thrill to watch and Bryan winning definitely made things better for me on a personal note.

****

Daniel Bryan vs Mark Henry Smackdown 11/4/11

I definitely would have preferred his world title win instead of this, but I understand that they wanted to show the transition of how they get to the Royal Rumble cage match with Bryan, Show and Henry, which is the next and final match of the set. This was a nice little TV match here, Henry was in the best form of his life and Bryan is amazing at playing the underdog character. Big Show comes in after Bryan was down and knocked Henry out, and then they teased Bryanís cash in only to get dropped by Henry when he tries to. I would have preferred his matches against Show closer to the rumble then this as it set up the story of Bryan always sneaking away with the victory, and of course the start of the global juggernaut that is the YES chants, but nonetheless this was fun while it lasted.

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World Heavyweight Championship: Daniel Bryan(c) vs Big Show vs Mark Henry Royal Rumble 2012

For what it was, this was pretty good in my view. Mark Henry had a job to walk with his ankle injury and Show was supposedly coming in with a bad back also. But thatís ok if anyone in the world can drag out a good 8-10 minute match with these huge liabilities itís that boy D-Bryan. Bryan made these guys look like monsters, however due to their injuries at points it kind of dragged when Bryan was down. I loved the finish how Bryan once again weaselled his way to victory. Without a doubt the best moment of this match though was the post-match celebration of D-Bryan, it was like he had won the Super Bowl. This was a lot better than it probably had the right to be, with both Henry and Show full strength this might have been borderline great.

** 3/4

Thoughts

The WWE absolutely got the first 3 matches on this set completely right, they had his much anticipated debut and at that time the 2 biggest wins of his career. I actually think they did a good job with this set, I may have changed a few things such as the Henry match and had his title win but thatís really the only thing. The biggest problem with this set is that Bryanís career has skyrocketed since Mania, and the last match on the set was 2 months prior at the Royal Rumble. Thatís not the WWEís fault as such but this definitely could have benefitted, if it came out 6 months later. Think of if they had his match against Sheamus at Extreme Rules or against Punk at Over the limit, this could have been probably the best Superstar Collection DVD yet. However if youíre a D-Bryan fan like myself this is a must buy, the 90 minutes of action just flew by. I just canít wait for when D-Bryanís own documentary DVD comes out. For less than $10 dollars, this is an absolute steal.

Rating: 7/10

My next NOC review should be up in a few days.
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What does everyone think of the match listing for Punk's DVD? It's good for what it is but the DVD only runs for 7 hours, which means they could have easily fit more matches on there. Looks like they got most of the important matches in there though.
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Excited to read that the upcoming Rock/Cena documentary is NOT the same one as the TV special that aired

http://www.wwedvdnews.com/exclusive-...ime-dvd/26446/
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Huh, I'm... not excited to read that . A documentary between 2 shitty wrestlers about their shitty feud being different from the shitty documentary they already did on their shitty feud doesn't interest me. What are the odds of THAT?

Punk set thoughts? Happy about these matches being there:

Brent Albright OVW
William Regal Raw
John Cena MITB (so I can own it on bluray should I pick this set up)

Everything else is hit and miss for me. Already available or not interesting enough for me.
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I picked up Elimination Chamber 2011 on DVD for £1.90, new and sealed from Amazon, think ill give it a watch in abit, havn't seen an EC in years, but have read positive things in here about last years.
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