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Old 09-02-2012, 07:23 AM   #5681 (permalink)
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vs Daniel Bryan (Money in the Bank) - *1/2
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Old 09-02-2012, 08:16 AM   #5682 (permalink)
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Just like Choke takes his liberties when it comes to posting about Punk, all I've seen from you is the same thing when it comes to Orton. I would never know you were a fan of the guy with the way you constantly shit on him every chance you get. Not that it bothers me. I just found it hypocritical of you to have a go at somebody else for doing what appeared to be the same thing. I guess near death experiences, drug problems, attitude problems, having a child, getting kicked out of the marines and finding yourself as a person isn't interesting for you then? Fair enough. You must have a pretty high standard for what an interesting life is then lol.
But he didn't "find himself" he's just the same guy except not as big of a douche. A documentary just about "yeah he was a douche but now he's not as big of a douche" isn't riveting programming to me.

The reason why I hardly praise him is because he hasn't done anything for nearly two years, what is his character? what is it meant to be? he's just a guy who has wrestling matches, thats all he is right now. he has no defining personality, no character traits, no depth, nothing. Compare how good his character was in early 2009 to now, its a fucking joke. its a fucking joke how irrelevant he is now compared to how hot he was in 2009/2010. I'm just disappointed by him atm
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CM Punk's title reign:

- vs Alberto Del Rio (Survivor Series) - ***1/2
- vs The Miz and Alberto Del Rio (TLC) - ****1/4
- vs Dolph Ziggler (Royal Rumble) - ***1/2
- vs Dolph Ziggler, The Miz, Chris Jericho, R-Truth and Kofi Kingston (Elimination Chamber) - ***3/4
- vs Chris Jericho (Wrestlemania 28) - ***1/2
- vs Chris Jericho (Extreme Rules) - ****1/4
- vs Daniel Bryan (Over the Limit) - ****3/4
- vs Kane vs Daniel Bryan (No Way Out) ***
- vs Daniel Bryan (Money in the Bank) - ***1/2
- vs Big Show and John Cena (SummerSlam) - **1/2

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Old 09-02-2012, 11:45 AM   #5684 (permalink)
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Survivor Series vs Alberto Del Rio : ****
TLC vs Alberto Del Rio & The Miz : ****1/4
Royal Rumble vs Dolph Ziggler : ***1/2
Elimination Chamber vs Chris Jericho vs The Miz Vs Dolph Ziggler vs Kofi Kingston Vs R-Truth : ***1/2
Wrestlemania vs Chris Jericho : ****1/2
Extreme Rules vs Chris Jericho : ****1/4
Over the Limit vs Daniel Bryan : ****3/4
No Way Out vs Daniel Bryan & Kane : ***3/4
Money in the Bank vs Daniel Bryan : ****1/2
Summerslam vs John Cena & Big Show : **

Based title reign based off matches in a long time.

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Jesus Meltzer's star ratings for Punks title reign

V Del Rio ***1/2
V Miz and Del Rio TLC ****1/4
V Ziggler ***1/2
V Ziggler, Jericho, Miz, Kofi, Truth EC ***1/4
V Jericho ***3/4
V Jericho street fight ***1/2
V Daniel Bryan ****1/2
V Kane and Daniel Bryan ***1/4
V Daniel Bryan street fight ****1/4
V Cena and Big Show **2/3
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Jesus Meltzer's star ratings for Punks title reign

V Del Rio ***1/2
V Miz and Del Rio TLC ****1/4
V Ziggler ***1/2
V Ziggler, Jericho, Miz, Kofi, Truth EC ***1/4
V Jericho ***3/4
V Jericho street fight ***1/2
V Daniel Bryan ****1/2
V Kane and Daniel Bryan ***1/4
V Daniel Bryan street fight ****1/4
V Cena and Big Show **2/3
THE LORD himself.

A 2/3 rating? Amateur hour.
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A 2/3 rating? Amateur hour.
Shit. My bad, human error.

**3/4

Hopefully he doesn't find out.
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Shit. My bad, human error.

**3/4

Hopefully he doesn't find out.
He sees all.

I'd consider **3/4 high for that match. I really didn't care for it, especially compared to the rest of the reign.
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Old 09-02-2012, 01:03 PM   #5689 (permalink)
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The only matches I can actually remember in detail are vs. Bryan @OTL and vs. Jericho @ER. The rest of them have been pretty much forgettable to me. I would have to go back and watch them all before I doled out ratings. The Bryan match was truly something special and the ER match with Jericho was awesome. The rest of them are just alright I suppose with the Mania match being at the higher end of the spectrum, otherwise I would have remembered them lol. What I can say is that he's had a very consistent reign but not very memorable at all. If he had the feuds to go with the matches I'd call it one of the better reigns we've seen but I don't think he's had even 1 great or even good feud since he won it. Hopefully he can provide at least something to remember this reign by with the current feud with Cena and then later with Rock if it happens or it will have all been for nought. It's actually quite appalling that he has held the title this long and is still seeking validation and/or a memorable moment.
I agree. It's good for CM Punk that the one thing he CAN control in his wrestling has been great throughout, but it would help if there was actually some substance to them. There's no point in being champion if you're gonna have a string of good-but-unmemorable matches. CM Punk was doing that long before he got the belt.
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Can someone rank these DVDs for me from best to worst, or just from which you've seen? Thanks, debating which one I should check out first.

The Streak 20-0
Top 50 Finishers
Greatest Rivalries Shawn Michaels vs Bret Hart
Stone Cold Steve Austin: The Bottom Line
The Epic Journey of Dwayne The Rock Johnson
You Think You Know Me: The Story of Edge
Randy Orton: Evolution of A Predator

Again, thanks in advance.
1) Austin I'm rewatching this with someone next week I believe and I'm glad because it is so good. Excellent documentary on disc one (although pray tell, why mute out the cusses if it's an 18 release anyway?) and also great matches on discs 2 and 3. Disc 4 is my favourite because it has some of his greatest promos. A lot of people accuse Austin of being one dimensional on the mic but this disc with his earlier stuff proves all of it wrong. There was a chip on his shoulder the size of Texas after he was fired from WCW, and I'm glad they did it because it makes for great watching.

2) The documentary for the Edge set is also top notch. The main gripe with this is the match selection, which couldn't be helped because they had to follow a) time constraints and b) "The Story of Edge" itself. That means that the matches are quite common and sometimes not the best possible selection (eg Edge/Hardy ladder match instead of their cage match) but it's still all excellent stuff.

3) I'm really iffy on Orton's set. I don't understand how they go out and mention something as touchy as his drug issues and him nearly dying, and then go and put in some kayfabed bit of him being 'furious' that he lost the Elimination Chamber. I don't remember the match selection but I think it was quite good too (except for matches like vs Hogan and vs Dusty Rhodes, but you understand why they're included)
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Top 5 wrestling documentary dvd's (based on the documentary themselves)

1. Rise and Fall of ECW (untouchable, the closest thing WWE has produced that may be considered to be award material)
2. Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Bottom Line on the the most popular superstar of all time
3. Heartbreak and Triumph, The Shawn Michaels Story
4. Breaking the Code, Behind the Walls of Chris Jericho
5. McMahon

Starbuck, I,m actually a fan of Randy Orton, but he hasn't done anything since his red hot run in the summer of 2010 , his character is a whole lot of nothing right now, and if you're gonna make a documentary about someones life, make sure the persons life outside the ring is interesting.

EDIT- Choke2Death, even though your rating of the DB V CM Punk MITB match itself is way too low. The CM Punk, DB, AJ stuff was very, very bad and handicapped what could of been a great angle (that is just CM Punk V Daniel Bryan, alone, and no one to fuck things up).
I agree on your number one pick, but having read Michaels' and Jericho's books before watching their sets I was quite bored with the docs, because they didn't really have anything new to tell at all. They're still good releases for the matches and promo content, especially on Jericho's side. Oh and at the bolded, opinions are like buttholes and all that.

What does everyone think about Bragging Rights 2010? Bryan vs Ziggler is a top three favourite match for both men, and I really enjoy the elimination tag as well. I just miss the concept of brand animosity in WWE, it's so annoying that the whole supershow thing means it probably won't ever happen again.
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Top 5 documentaries:

1. Jake Roberts
2. ECW
3. Steve Austin
4. AWA
5. WCCW

Shame that with such a great track record of making docs on promotions, they managed to fuck up the WCW one. It was still good, but come on, a documentary on Jim Crockett Promotions/World Championship Wrestling, given its rich history and impact on the business, THAT was the best they could do? Bah.

Now they own the Mid-South library, PLEASE WWE, make that documentary.
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