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Old 08-31-2012, 12:20 PM   #5631 (permalink)
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Brock then does what surely should be considered insane and JUMPS OFF THE TOP OF THE FUCKING FORKLIFT OVER THE ROPES ON TOP OF BIG SHOW. That was one of the best looking spots I have ever seen.
That leap from the forklift was insane he jumped so far.
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Old 08-31-2012, 04:30 PM   #5632 (permalink)
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Just watched Bulldog/HBK from King Of The Ring 1996.

Classic matchup between the two, great overall chemistry, found it funny when Bulldog got in the ring and was getting some stick (think from fans, thought it was Owen but they were both heels wern't they), but he blurted out "Don't Fuck with me" lol, couldn't hear it but you could read his lips easy!!

There are some great fucking bumps in this match, the suplex off the top turnbuckle Bulldog gives HBK for example.

Also the aftermath too, with Vader, Ahmed Johnson (remember him lol), even the Ultimate bloody Warrior!!!!

Im shit at rating but at least **** maybe ****1/2 for me.
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:19 PM   #5633 (permalink)
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The Undertaker-JBL series is great stuff. *** 1/2 for both matches, and I especially loves the beating that JBL takes in the Last Ride match. I'm a big fan of the story that JBL's title reign took, as he was a HUGE dick who just managed to overcome the odds time and time again. About to watch the Armageddon Fatal 4 Way, and they do a pre match promo where JBL's cabinet tell him that it's going to be okay, and a distraught JBL takes a long walk down the hall from his locker room to the ring, and it's just like he KNOWS he's in for a world of pain, but he has to accept it. Brilliant segment.

Thoughts on that particular match guys ? I haven't seen it in about 4-5 years, but I remember it being good.
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:21 PM   #5634 (permalink)
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You get to see Eddie Guerrero and the Undertaker in the same ring but other than that it isn't worth anything.
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:32 PM   #5635 (permalink)
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I loved the 4 way when I watched it, it exceeded my expectations by a mile. I believe I gave it **** or **** 1/4 , I find it to be underated. It has been awhile since I've seen it though.
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Just watched the finishers DVD, horrible positions as usual but decent list in the content.

They had some ridiculous things like saying that Edge was like the pioneer or had the best Spear or something. Then for Goldberg they showed only his Jackhammer to not expose their stupidity from the previous slots. Also said that no finisher got a crowd reaction like the Stunner, nothing was more over than the People's Elbow. I can agree with the Stunner as number 1 but their stupid explanations like "you can hit it from every position"(which is not true at all)or "he beat everybody with it" just seems desperate to put Austin there. Besides the annoying voiceover before every number, decent DVD.
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Just watched the finishers DVD, horrible positions as usual but decent list in the content.

They had some ridiculous things like saying that Edge was like the pioneer or had the best Spear or something. Then for Goldberg they showed only his Jackhammer to not expose their stupidity from the previous slots. Also said that no finisher got a crowd reaction like the Stunner, nothing was more over than the People's Elbow. I can agree with the Stunner as number 1 but their stupid explanations like "you can hit it from every position"(which is not true at all)or "he beat everybody with it" just seems desperate to put Austin there. Besides the annoying voiceover before every number, decent DVD.
Those lists wouldnt be so damn boring if people debated where certain things should be on the list. One of my favorite shows is NFL Top Ten because people who they get to talk about the list debate about who should be in which spot. But of course in WWE's mind "Were always right!" Even when they have completely asinine spots on the list (Tebow being ahead of Marcus Allen on a list of top heismann winners in the NFL) they show everyone debating the spot. It's not a dick-suckingfest like it is in WWE DVDs, that's why this forum is great, we all have different opinions and it's interesting to here other people's opinions (at least when they're argued well and not just morons saying " DANIEL BRYAN SUX!!!"
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Just watching the top 50 finishers now. at Drew Mac when talking about Lita's moonsault. "My favourite part of Lita's mooonsault would definitely have to be... when she would take her top off before hand". Then Regal "I wish she would do that to me. Ooooo...".

Think it would have been better to no have specific people attached to the finishers (except for the likes of the Stunner, nobody wants to see Disco Inferno copying it lol). That way we wouldn't have had 2 spots for the Moonsault (Lita and Bam Bam) and we could have included the likes of VADER there too (seriously, Bam Bam's pretty shitty odd looking moonsauly over VADER?).
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Im thinking about getting that DVD at some point, match listing looks alright from a quick glance, not too bothered about the actual 'list doc'.
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Royal Rumble 2004:

*Batista & Ric Flair vs Dudley Boyz (Tables Match) - *3/4
- The stipulation excited me going into this but the match itself leaves a lot to be desired. They are given about 5 minutes and it just feels way too underwhelming. Batista & Flair retain the tag titles after Batista gives D-Von a spinebuster through a table and Jonathan Coachman randomly interferes to distract the Dudleyz. Would have been better as an elimination tables match given 5 more minutes.

*Rey Mysterio vs Jamie Noble - **1/2
- Cruiserweight matches are usually exciting and high paced but again, this one is barely given any time and throughout the few minutes, I was not really into it.

*Eddie Guerrero vs Chavo Guerrero - ***
- In under ten minutes, they do some standard wrestling with some decent storytelling in the way they sell the 'betrayal' angle. Ends a bit fast too but the best of the show so far. Eddie wins with the Three Amigos and the Frog Splash then proceeds to take out his frustrations on Chavo Sr. and Chavo Jr. post-match.

*Brock Lesnar vs Hardcore Holly - *
- ...And this is your WWE Championship match. From the previous year's Kurt Angle vs Chris Benoit classic, the title scene sinks this low which is unbelievable. After getting his neck broken by sandbagging, Bob Holly returns to get his revenge on Lesnar but the match itself is fucking garbage. They get about 6 minutes of time and for about half of it, they spend the time laying on the mat with a rear naked choke by Lesnar. Then out of nowhere, Lesnar gives Holly the F5 to win. So lacking, it's horrible. None of the intensity the storyline calls for and no entertainment in the match itself.

*HHH vs Shawn Michaels (Last Man Standing) - ***3/4
- This is Angle/Benoit to Lesnar/Holly's HHH/Steiner from the 2003 Rumble. The year before, the Smackdown main event followed the Raw one and embarrassed the fuck out of the red brand by following a horrible match with a classic ***** match. This LMS match doesn't compare to the Angle/Benoit classic on the same level but is a breath of fresh air in comparison to the WWE Championship stinker it follows. Not their best match together but still a good one. There's not much wrestling in here either apart from the beginning. Once HBK starts bleeding following that moonsault into the table, they just start hitting moves and then laying down for about an 8 count continuously. Both hit their finishers and after the Sweet Chin Music, it ends in a double count-out. Crowd is not happy about the result as they wanted Shawn to win the title. The amount of bleeding in this match in unbelievable. Probably a top 5 match in WWE history in terms of how much blood has been lost (specially involving both men rather than only one like Eddie/JBL).

*Royal Rumble Match - ****3/4
- I absolutely love this. Chris Benoit finally heads into the main event of Wrestlemania here after starting at number one and winning the whole damn thing. One of the best Rumble matches I've seen with a lot of storytelling advancements made as well. Goldberg is on a roll as the final entrant but the tension between him and Lesnar for the WM20 match continues to build when Lesnar interferes and F5s him, leading to his elimination. Randy Orton continues his feud with Mick Foley when Foley finds his way into the match and eliminates Orton (along with himself). And the ending is awesome with Big Show being extremely dominant, eliminating everyone who was on him (RVD, Cena, Angle, Jericho), leaving him with Benoit only but Benoit shows the heart of a champion by fighting his way into a legendary victory when he puts Big Show in a hold and eliminates the big man by using his weight against him.

Overall:
***1/2 out of ***** (The match card is lacking with only one of them getting anything above 10 minutes which is the World Heavyweight Championship match. It doesn't help that outside of one average and a good match, the rest of the card is pretty weak with the exception of the classic Rumble match which helps bump this into 3 and a half.)
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