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Old 08-30-2012, 07:47 PM   #5621 (permalink)
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That stretcher match was pretty fun from what I recall. Batista/Michaels from Extreme Rules 08 is another awesome stretch match too.
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Old 08-30-2012, 08:28 PM   #5622 (permalink)
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This is getting fucking ridiculous.

Just watched the Vengeance 2003 triple threat between Angle/Lesnar/Show and it's a legit **** 1/2 to me , and DARE I SAY IT better than the 02 triple threat by a small margin. WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH SMACKDOWN IN 2003 ?!?!?! Seriously, It;s been *** 1/2 + all across the fucking board with a majority being all time classics. Now I have to watch Lesnar-Angle II from Summerslam , which I had at **** 3/4 on my last watch , so if the Biker Chain match holds up..

Then we have the all time best year for WWE Championship matches. Might as well just come out and say it, sorry to ruin the surprise
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This is getting fucking ridiculous.

Just watched the Vengeance 2003 triple threat between Angle/Lesnar/Show and it's a legit **** 1/2 to me , and DARE I SAY IT better than the 02 triple threat by a small margin. WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH SMACKDOWN IN 2003 ?!?!?! Seriously, It;s been *** 1/2 + all across the fucking board with a majority being all time classics. Now I have to watch Lesnar-Angle II from Summerslam , which I had at **** 3/4 on my last watch , so if the Biker Chain match holds up..

Then we have the all time best year for WWE Championship matches. Might as well just come out and say it, sorry to ruin the surprise
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Kinda off topic, but was just watching an old Flair/HHH segment from the night of the Batista contract signing for WM21 right before it. This segment reminded me of something... HHH can be as great as he wants to be, but god, Flair makes him seem a hundred times what he is. lol. I saw a youtube comment "Ric Flair=Biggest HHH mark"... so true. Hell, 75% of the reason Evolution was so entertaining was Flair's marking out for HHH.

And so I can keep it somewhat on topic:

Lesnar/Show JD03: ****

Fantastic stretcher match. Lesnar/Show have some great chemistry.

Edit: On Taker/Lesnar Unforgiven, 2 things:

1) I give the match ****. A real fight feel to it with some excellent psychology and storytelling. Taker makes Brock taste his own blood, and Brock goes after Taker's ribs, both which were alluded to in the Taker/Brock sit-down promo. Which brings me to just that:

2)
Such a fantastic promo between them. Taker was amazing. Paul was amazing. Lesnar even was pretty good. Paul talking about Taker's family was a nice way to make this feud personal, in addition to what would happen with the whole "Life's a bitch" thing with Lesnar/Sara.

I think I'm gonna give Taker/Lesnar HIAC another watch tomorrow. I have it at ****3/4, and the highest at that rating. We'll see if it holds up. But I did watch the video package in preparation and it's awesome!



Edit: Speaking of awesome promos, this one for Taker/Cena Vengeance 03 just happened to be in the suggested videos:

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Is there anywhere I can find the steel cage match between Benoit & JBL that took place on Smackdown a few weeks after WM22? I've been searching everywhere but only a bit of it is in dailymotion and the full match has been impossible to find. And unlike 2003/2004 (and the AE years), finding full episodes for 2006 is very rare on youtube.
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:13 AM   #5626 (permalink)
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My thoughts on JBL/Benoit cage match when I watched it for my SD 06 project:

JBL Vs Chris Benoit - US Title - Steel Cage - Smackdown April 14th 2006

A WM rematch! Liked their match at WM, thought it was a hell of a lot better than it should have been given the fact JBL was involved.

Long comes out before it starts and announces that it will be a CAGE match! Been wanting to see this since Andy mentioned it and got me to upload it (and he still hasn't watched it, the cunt!).

Didn't think this "feud" was ready for a cage match just yet, but WWE was about to start using the cage as often as a singles match (after they had kinda cooled down with them since the Attitude Era where we would have one every couple of weeks ), so I guess it doesn't matter too much. Benoit takes it to JBL straight away, and Bradshaw has to brawl his way back into control, and once he takes down Benoit, he quickly tries to climb out. Benoit drags him off, and tries to climb out himself, which honestly doesn't bother me too much since I didn't think their were in a heated feud. Benoit pretty much wants to beat JBL to win the US title, not necessarily maim him... but if he has to do that to win, then he'll do that.

We get a couple of medium sized cage spots, with a back suplex from the top rope (in the middle of the ropes, not the corner), and Benoit launched off the top rope when they were battling in the corner to escape.

Plenty of stiff shots from both guys too a you would expect. They don't like each other so they do want to inflict damage, but overall I believe I am right in saying that both men simply want to win rather than destroy each other; destroying each other just helps with the winning lol.

Off topic here... never been a fan of Jillian in terms of looks... but those tits and THAT top... yum.

Both men end up exhausted, and JBL takes full advantage of this by locking in a sleeper hold, hoping that Benoit is already worn down enough for this hold to be used as a viable finisher for the first time in years. Surprise surprise though, its not over with a sleeper, instead it begins the Benoit comeback.

All through the match, any of the big spots (aka from the top rope) have been taken by Benoit, so when he finally gets to make his big comeback at the end, he makes damn sure JBL takes a bump too, and he busts out a top rope German Suplex! Looked AWESOME considering a guy the size of JBL took it.

Finish is pretty great, with Benoit crawling out of the cage and Jillian trying to ram the door into his head. The ref stops her, and while she gets rid of him, JBL shoves Benoit of of the way and is about to leave... but Jillian slams the door into HIS face! Ha! Crossface is locked in, and JBL taps out! Only Jillian makes up for what she just did by distracting the ref inside the ring when she tried to climb in.

JBL reverses the Crossface into a pin like at WM, but Benoit kicks out this time. They then fight to get out of the door, but a low blow puts Benoit down and JBL picks up the win.

Really enjoyed this match, maybe not enough to add it to my final list, but will be put into consideration. I liked how they worked with the cage stip, given where their feud was. It wasn't a blood and hate filled feud, though both guys don't like each other at all, its about the title (for this match, anyway. Benoit wants revenge for WM by winning back the belt). So they don't work this cage match like they want to kill each other, they try to win. And like I mentioned, trying to destroy each other helps them on their way to winning. So considering all of that, I thought they worked this cage match better than most people have in the last 5 or so years (HHH/Flair is the only one I can think of that was worked better).

Rating: ***1/2
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Old 08-31-2012, 09:07 AM   #5627 (permalink)
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About to watch the Last Ride Match between JBL and The Undertaker at No Mercy 2004 ....

Thoughts on this match ?
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Old 08-31-2012, 09:21 AM   #5628 (permalink)
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Did a favour for a friend the other day, and they sent me a Silvervision gift voucher . Ordered some stuff, got them this afternoon (bloody late post):

WWE Live in the UK November 2010 (one of the weaker TV tapings over here, but I need it for my collection lol)
Raw: The Beginning - Best of Season 1 & 2
Vengeance 2004: Limited Edition version including Trish Stratus: Stratusfaction Guaranteed (I ain't fucking opening this!)
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WrestleMania 26 bluray (completing my bluray WM collection except for 28 that I'll get when its cheap )

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The Undertaker Vs JBL - WWE Title Last Ride Match - No Mercy 2004

I always loved this match, but damn, I love it even more now. It takes everything that was good about their SS match, and turns it up a notch. More vicious beatings, blood, intensity... its all there.

Being the first Last Ride match, I was unsure at the time how it would play out, but they did a real great job with the stipulation. Unlike stretcher matches, ambulance matches, and hell, even the likes of LMS matches, they didn't constantly go to the hearse and try to throw each other in. They only went near the thing ONCE in the match before the finish. The rest of the time they were beating the living shit out of each other so they would be hurt enough to stay in the hearse.

JBL made great use of the steel steps throughout the match, but it was The Undertaker who took the steel steps and made them more destructive than ever. The Tombstone to JBL on the steps is fucking awesome, right up there with HBK's normal piledriver on the steps. One thing I didn't like about that though, is that JBL recovers WAY too quickly. A normal Tombstone is known to put a man out for quite some time, but one on the steel steps should essentially be it for whoever takes it. About a minute later, after taking some punches to the head which was busted open, JBL is standing, and fighting back with a steel chair!

Another move on the steel steps is something I really liked, and could have potentially been brutal if done wrong. A simple enough move, but done on the steel steps made it dangerous, and that's the back body drop. 'Taker was reversing a piledriver attempt from Bradshaw, and he had to make sure JBL got enough distance from the steps, otherwise he would have just gone over and smashed the back of his skull. Plus, The Undertaker was right on the edge of the steps, and he had to fall back after hitting the move due to the shifting weight of JBL, and he could have easily fallen wrong too. Lucky they pulled it off well, and it looked pretty cool IMO.

The one thing that really prevents me from going higher with this match is the finish. Heidenreich jumped out of the hearse just as The Undertaker opened it to put JBL in, and tried to chloroform him. The Undertaker looked to be out as the hearse drove away, but the camera inside showed him sitting up and getting out again. JBL used the Heidenreich distraction to give him a Clothesline from Hell, and that was enough to keep 'Taker in the hearse.

Apart from the shitty ending, this was a fantastic match. More of a street fight than anything else, as the hearse only really came into play right at the end. Probably in my bottom 100, but its going to be there for now it seems!

Rating: ****1/4
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About to watch the Last Ride Match between JBL and The Undertaker at No Mercy 2004 ....

Thoughts on this match ?
To be honest, I thought it was a bit too slow for my liking. Not a huge fan of it but it's still a decent match.
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