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post #5571 of 20566 (permalink) Old 08-28-2012, 12:42 PM
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Punk/Cena > Punk/Bryan

Both are their respective MOTY's IMO, but like SMIG said... Punk/Cena is practically THE perfect main event of a hot show. The atmosphere is otherwordly, the workrate is fantastic (even for CENA standards) , and the character development of both Punk and Cena is so tremendous and deep it's actually amazing.

Punk/Bryan might be the better WRESTLING match, but as an experience in itself I would give the BIG nod to Punk/Cena. Both would fall in my top 30 matches of all time (Punk/Cena is actually in my top 10), despite only occurring within the past year. The beautiful thing about 2011 and 2012 in contrast to 2009 and 2010, is that the MOTY is left completely up to the person who watches. 2009/2010 had the HBK/Taker series that was OBVIOUSLY MOTY in both years , but now we have the whole HHH/Taker vs Punk Cena debate , and this year it's even MORE of a wide open race (I can think of 7 matches that you can give a strong argument for MOTY honours).

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Bryan/Punk OLT or Punk/Cena MITB? DON'T MAKE ME CHOOSE!

Well ok. Cena/Punk is overall the better of the two in terms of build up, atmosphere, seeming importance at the time (HHH getting involved, Del Rio winning the belt among other things killed any importance it should have had in the end)... but I'd sooner watch Bryan/Punk again. Then again I'd say Bryan/Punk is the better MATCH, with Punk/Cena being better at everything else and still having a great match to boot. I love em both. Punk/Bryan more. Doesn't mean its better though. So my overall decision is the same as HHH's retirement announcement on Raw this week: I don't know.

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Originally Posted by SaviorBeeRad™ View Post
What do you guys prefer? Bryan/Punk OTL or Punk/Cena MITB?
Punk/Bryan easily. Punk/Cena had everything going for it and they delivered. Punk/Bryan had nothing going into it and they delivered ten-fold that. Punk/Bryan got the crowd engaged on NOTHING except their prior known wrestling skills and perhaps little matches on Raw/SD. The atmosphere was fantastic. What Punk/Cena had over Punk/Bryan was the fact Punk/Cena had an actual storyline, and it happened to be one of if not the best and hottest storylines in the last decade. But when it comes to just the matches, it's easily Punk/Bryan. It was a masterpiece of a match. Punk/Cena was a masterpiece of a storyline combo'd with a match.

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Just rewatched one of my favourite PPVs of all time, and definitely one of the top 3 single-brand PPVs of all time - Vengeance 2003

Eddie Guerrero vs. Chris Benoit: ****
Jamie Noble vs. Billy Gunn: **
APA Bar Room Brawl: ** 1/2
The World's Greatest Tag Team vs. Billy Kidman and Rey Mysterio: ****
Sable vs. Stephanie: Skipped over
The Undertaker vs. John Cena: *** 3/4
Vince McMahon vs. Zach Gowen: *** 1/2 A lot of fun, tbh
Big Show vs. Brock Lesnar vs. Kurt Angle: **** 3/4 - One of my favourite matches, and my second favourite triple threat of all time
Best SmackDown exclusive PPV IMO.

And give me Punk vs. Bryan over Punk vs. Cena.

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post #5575 of 20566 (permalink) Old 08-29-2012, 12:45 AM
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What do you guys prefer? Bryan/Punk OTL or Punk/Cena MITB?
Both are 4 stars imo, but Punk/Cena is better.

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Punk/Cena by a mile. Punk vs. Bryan is great and all but there is big similarities with them and how they wrestle. With Cena and Punk, they couldn't be more different. Punk was different from Cena in size, look, offense, how they wrestle, and yet they just complimented each other so much and that is what makes the best matches. Like when the cerebral wrestler CM Punk fought stiff Samoa Joe or when the technician Bret Hart faced the Brawler in Steve Austin. Where Punk has strikes, Cena did not. Where Cena had power, Punk couldn't contend. Where Punk had his high flying, Cena had experience. It was one of the truly great matches in pro wrassling.

Even the botches made sense! Punk crossbodying Cena's knees didn't look to great but when he actually performs the move correctly, he gets caught by Cena like a small child. John Cena's body language and how he reacted to things were phenomenal. He felt like a guy who has been on top for years(Which he has) and nearly all his moves felt as if he dictated them or he just put them in the right place. It kinda seemed as if he was cool and collected. As if he knew what to do and when to do it. This one of the first times we had ever seen Cena wrestle like that or take that kinda role in a match. It didn't feel like Cena was fighting back at Punk but Punk was fighting back against Cena(If that makes any sense).

Punk didn't seem as cool as Cena did in the latter part and felt incredibly desperate in all of his offense. He was as underdog as one could get with his massive amount of selling(And what great selling it was) and having to work himself out of the several predicaments that Cena had put him in. He had got put through the shredder with Cena. Punk felt as if he wanted to win and needed to win. You can tell the difference between both guys in that match in how Punk would keep climbing to get out of that hole that Cena kept burying. I love the part nearly towards the end when Punk has to hit Cena with everything he has got just so Cena doesn't obliterate his ass with a avalanche AA. When he takes off his knee pad to get as much damage on Cena as he can get and seeing him hobble towards Cena to deliver the shining knee is just telling of the tale of how deep Punk has been in the hole. The shining grace in the match is when the GTS connects and you can just see everything Punk has worked for just fall right out of his hands when Cena falls out of the ring. I cannot explore more into detail about how much better Punk/Cena was than Punk/Bryan.

The OTL is a clinic but I'll take that roller coaster over it any day.

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Punk/Cena - *****
Punk/Bryan - ****3/4

I'd say Punk/Cena but you can't go wrong.

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Lashley/JBL - ***
Tatanka/Hardy vs MNM - ***1/4
Benoit/Booker - ***3/4
Mysterio/Orton - ****1/2
Taker/Angle - ****3/4

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Punk/Cena is the epitome of what wrestling should be.
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Ratings from Foley's Set That Are ***+

Cactus Jack vs. Big Van Vader - ***
Cactus Jack vs. Mikey Whipwreck - ***3/4
Cactus Jack vs. Sting - ****
Mankind vs. Shawn Michaels - ****1/2
Cactus Jack vs. Triple H - ***1/2
Dude Love vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin - ****1/4
Mankind vs. The Undertaker - ****1/4
Cactus Jack vs. Triple H - ****1/2
Mick Foley vs. Randy Orton - ****1/4
Mick Foley vs. Edge - ****
Mick Foley and Edge vs. Terry Funk and Tommy Dreamer - ***1/2
Mick Foley vs. Ric Flair - ***1/4

A great DVD collection, especially Disk 2 and the bonus disk.
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I'm looking for a Tagged Classics DVD, I'm talking about "Battle Royal At The Albert Hall & UK Rampage 1991 DVD" if anyone has one for sale i'd be happy to buy it!
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