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Old 08-27-2012, 11:36 AM   #5521 (permalink)
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Other then that, the man has had some of the best matches of the last decade. Great matches with Austin, Rock, Cena, Jericho, Hardy, Lesnar, Undertaker, Batista, Benoit, Flair, Punk, HBK, Umaga, and even a LMS match with Orton. I dont know how anyone can say that he has been mediocre the past decade.
Great matches with:

Austin - Nope .
Rock - Yes, a bunch, but that was over a decade ago .
Cena - Yes (2)
Jericho - Over a decade ago .
Hardy - Yes (2)
Lesnar - Yes (1)
Undertaker - Yes (2)
Batista - Yes (1)
Benoit - Yes (1 triple threat)
Flair - Yes (2)
Punk - No.
HBK - Yes (1 triple threat)
Umaga - No.
Orton - Yes (1)

12 great matches in the last decade. Nothing special for a super duper megastar shoved down our throats for over half the decade .
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:39 AM   #5522 (permalink)
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Big Dave Meltzer has never rated any HHH match five stars. So its official. End of discussion. Triple H has never had a five star match in his life. Cena has though
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:39 AM   #5523 (permalink)
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Cal, you just need to learn how to play the game.
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:48 AM   #5524 (permalink)
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Obis, you have Angle-Benoit from the Rumble ranked as the greatest match of all time ? That's very bold, glad to see somebody who doesn't just go with what everyone else perceives to be the greatest. I currently have it at my number 8 spot, but when I get there for my WWE Championship project in a few days, I'll see how it holds up :angle

I've only got about 60 odd matches left (mostly from the years 01, 02 and 03) so I'll be done this sooner or later. There has been a few pleasant surprises, but for the most part I'm seeing what I expected anyways. The good thing is that since these are all big time main event matches, they usually have SOME redeeming factor in them, even though some are EXTREMELY underwhelming.

PS: Watching Austin-Taker from OTE 99, Rock-Taker KOTR 99, Austin-Taker FL 99 , and Show-Bossman ARM 99 and that will clue up every pre-00s era match for me. Thoughts on those matches (know the Show-Bossman one is a fun squash essentially) ?
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:53 AM   #5525 (permalink)
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No Edge 5* matches, Obis?
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Old 08-27-2012, 12:03 PM   #5526 (permalink)
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Hunter/Batista > All the matches. End of.
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Old 08-27-2012, 12:04 PM   #5527 (permalink)
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Great matches with:

Austin - Nope .
Rock - Yes, a bunch, but that was over a decade ago .
Cena - Yes (2)
Jericho - Over a decade ago .
Hardy - Yes (2)
Lesnar - Yes (1)
Undertaker - Yes (2)
Batista - Yes (1)
Benoit - Yes (1 triple threat)
Flair - Yes (2)
Punk - No.
HBK - Yes (1 triple threat)
Umaga - No.
Orton - Yes (1)

12 great matches in the last decade. Nothing special for a super duper megastar shoved down our throats for over half the decade .
1. HHH vs Undertaker (Wrestlemania 28)
2. HHH vs Undertaker (Wrestlemania 27)
3. HHH vs Flair (Cyber Sunday)
4. HHH vs Flair (Survivor Series)
5. HHH vs Hardy (No Mercy)
6. HHH vs Hardy (Cyber Sunday)
7. HHH vs HBK vs Benoit (Wrestlemaia 20)
8. HHH vs HBK vs Benoit (Backlash 2004)
9. HHH vs Cena vs Edge (Backlash 2006)
10.HHH vs Orton (No Mercy)
11.HHH vs Orton LMS (RAW)
12.HHH vs Cena (Wrestlemania 22)
13.HHH vs Cena (Night of Champions)
14.HHH vs Cena (RAW before Bragging Rights)
15.HHH vs Jericho (Fully Loaded)
17.HHH vs Batista HIAC (Vengeance)
18.HHH vs HBK (Summerslam)
19.HHH vs Lesnar (Summerslam)
20.HHH vs Umaga (Cyber Sunday)
21.HHH vs Cactus Jack (Royal Rumble)
22.HHH vs Cactus Jack Hell in a Cell
23.HHH vs HBK vs Cena (Survivor Series)
24.HHH vs HBK (RAW 03)
25.HHH vs Undertaker (Wrestlemania 17)

These are all good to great matches in my opinion. He has had a lot more mathes that are in the ***-***1/2 range.
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Old 08-27-2012, 12:17 PM   #5528 (permalink)
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No Edge 5* matches, Obis?
Nope, and only one at ****3/4, and none at ****1/2 (not counting tag team/big multiman matches). I'm a huge mark for the guy, but it's not because of his in-ring work.

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Yeah, used to have it at number 2, but you know what, the match plays up everything I love about wrestling to the fullest. I mentioned a day or two ago in some thread (not sure if this one), but I love matches where two guys just go out there and put everything on the line for nothing more than the WWE Championship. Not because they hate each other. Not because there's a girl who they're trying to win over. Just two guys putting on a classic doing the best of the wrestling part in WWE, and telling a fantastic story using nothing but what was available in the match. It was all about the WWE Title and just two men doing everything in their power to prove that they deserve to wear it. I don't even remember if there was much of a story besides Benoit wanting to accomplish his dream and become WWE Champion, but I know back in 2000/2001 there was a lot of one up-manship between the two and they had a whole story about that. But none of those matches touch the RR match between them for me.

It's amazing that the best match of all time for me was at RR03, but also one of the worst matches of all time (imo) took place at that event as well. :hhh
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Old 08-27-2012, 12:28 PM   #5529 (permalink)
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Torrie Wilson-Dawn Marie ? :hhh
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My 5* matches:

Benoit/Angle - Royal Rumble 2003
Benoit/HHH/Shawn Michaels - Wrestlemania XX
Shawn Michaels/Undertaker - Wrestlemania XXV
The Rock/Stone Cold - Wrestlemania X7

Close to 5* but not quite there:

Undertaker/HHH - Wrestlemania 28 (need to rewatch)
Bret Hart/Stone Cold - Wrestlemania 13
The Rock/Chris Benoit - Fully Loaded 2000
HHH/Stone Cold - No Way Out 2001
Batista/HHH - Vengeance 2005

I used to have Punk/Cena MITB at 5* too but then I rewatched it and it was not nearly as enjoyable as first time around. Still great and ****1/2 but if you missed it live, chances are you wont enjoy it as much.
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