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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Id rather not have chain games in here, otherwise people really rating matches could get lost in the shuffle. I dont post here alot, but I read this thread quite often.
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Game1778 got it right. Submission match against Bret at WM13 is one of the best matches of all-time, and the Mania17 encounter with the Rock where he sells his soul is one of the best Mania moments of all-time.

However, I feel obliged to express my feelings for his Caribbean Strap match with Savio Vega from back in the day. It's just a really cool match with a gimmick that, gasp, has not been done to death (though probably for good reason).

I also maintain, timidly, that Stone Cold is the greatest wrestler of all-time when you consider the TOTAL package. Mic work, in ring ability, character, match quality, all that shit. Best technical wrestler, however, is a whole different story.

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For me his best match is against Bret Hart Wrestlemania 13 (*****)

Top 5 Stone Cold matches
1. vs Bret WM 13 (*****)
2. vs Triple H NWO 2001 (*****)
3. vs Bret SS 96 (**** 3/4)
4. vs Chris Benoit Smackdown 2001 (**** 3/4)
5. vs The rock WM 17 (**** 3/4)
5. vs Angle SS 01 (**** 3/4)

couldnt choose which one.

thats roughly off the top of my head.



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Don't you think it'd be much more fun in here yeah ?

Seriously though Yeah, I'd like to know your opinion on what Stone Cold Steve Austin's greatest match ever is.... Summerslam vs Kurt Angle ? Wrestlemania/Survivor Series vs Bret ? Any of the Rock matches ? vs Steamboat ? Shoot.
The discussion would get messed and people's posts would go everywhere. I actually love the idea and have started like five of those threads on different forums over the past couple of years, but it's prob better for a thread like this to not stir in that direction. Get too cluttered.


I haven't watched it in a while, but the WM13 match v Bret is my pick. I never thought years ago I'd hear myself say this, but that's probably my best WWE match ever. I'd have to watch Bret/Owen and Slaughter/Sheik (and hell, Austin/Bret) again, but that's probably my top three in some order either way. Second (for Austin) is the SSeries 96 Bret match and third would be v Rock at WM17. Non-singles; WarGames 92 is actually probably better than one or two of those and IIRC he was in the whole thing. I'd have it above the Rock match, probably above SSeries 96, but not WM13. Austin has SOOOOOO many really good matches that people don't talk about enough, like the Vega strap match which is insanely great and just got mentioned (), but my outright favourite is v Benoit on SmackDown.

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You're absolutely right (damn it) , all I could think about was the idea of multiple people replying to the same post and asking for opinions of different wrestlers, it would get a little clusterfucked.

I'm just gonna throw in my top 5 Austin matches right now for the fuck of it :

1. vs Bret SS 96 : *****
2. vs Bret WM XIII : *****
3. vs Hunter NWO 01 (I know, I know ) : *****
4. vs The Rock WM X-7 : **** 3/4
5. vs Angle SS 01 (giving this a rewatch in the coming days) : **** 3/4

I find it to be borderline amazing how such a popular performer became probably one of the most underappreciated workers in the history of the business. We spend tons of time talking about Hunter, Taker, and Shawn, that we don't really spend on alot of guys like Hogan, Rock, and Austin. (Understandable for 2 of the 3 of course )

Just going to throw this out there... When was Steve at the peak of his career in terms of his ability to work a classic match ? 92, 94, 97, or 01 ? Is it insane to say that Austin peaked JUST before the end of his career ? What other wrestlers have gotten definitively better with age ?





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Hogan was so charismatic that his personality was simply infectious to witness during his performances. He may be the biggest babyface wrestler of all time. The way he could build and maintain a powerful connection with the fans during his matches was almost magic to behold in how it unfolded. His “get beat down, face-in-peril - hulk up - win” routine was tried but very effective to the live crowds and most of the viewing audience in those days. Hogan is not a technical wrestler and shouldn't be held to such a standard because he was masterful in what he did present and that was engaging a crowd and building larger-than-life moments that are talked about today.


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Just rewatched Cena/HHH/Edge since it was brought up a few pages ago. Fucking love that match. Haitch going batshit at the end and just fucking up everyone's shit with the sledgehammer is hilarious, as is the spot where him and Cena bounce Edge's head off of the announce table about 20 times. HHH also does a bladejob that would make :flair2 proud.
I really love the whole Cena/HHH/Edge feud from backlash back in 06. Edge at his best, HHH was at the verge of a face turn and Cena was mercilessly booed everywhere lol. Its one of the best triple threats imo. promos between them were funny as hell.


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Just re-watched Wrestlemania 28 for the first time since it aired thought I'd give my raitings.

Wrestlemania 28
Bryan/Sheamus - DUD
Orton/Kane - ***1/4
Rhodes/Show - **1/2
Divas Tag - *
Undertaker/HHH - ****3/4
12 Man Tag - ***
Punk/Jericho - ****1/2
Rock/Cena - ****1/2

Top 10 Matches of 2012
1. Punk/Bryan OTL
2. Undertaker/HHH WM
3. Lesnar/Cena ER
4. Punk/Jericho WM
5. Bryan/Sheamus ER
6. Rock/Cena WM
7. Punk/Bryan MITB
8. HHH/Lesnar SS
9. Punk/Bryan/Kane NWO
10. Punk/Henry I Raw

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Just going to throw this out there... When was Steve at the peak of his career in terms of his ability to work a classic match ? 92, 94, 97, or 01 ? Is it insane to say that Austin peaked JUST before the end of his career ? What other wrestlers have gotten definitively better with age ?
It definitely isn't insane to say Austin peaked towards the end of his career, he was in like GOD mode during 2001, which is my pick for his best year ever definitely. Well you can look at Taker and he seemed to get better and better with age. I think Taker is absolutely a prime example. I also think the likes of Orton and Christian have gotten better with age, they are 2 of the most consistent workers on the roster today.



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Speaking of Austin matches.

Does anyone else consider Austin vs Benoit the best TV match in WWE history?



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