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Old 03-22-2012, 11:41 AM   #521 (permalink)
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Old 03-22-2012, 11:43 AM   #522 (permalink)
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That promo was epic.

What does everyone think of Booker/Taker/Eddie/JBL from Armageddon '04? I found it to be really exciting and seeing Taker/Eddie interactions was awesome.
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Just watched the 4 way from Armageddon 2004... because... I dunno lol. Tried looking up my thoughts on the match because I was sure I wrote about it for the Poll... but I can't fucking find anything lol.

Anyway, watching it REALLY makes me fucking upset that Eddie and Undertaker never had a match together . They get about... 7 or 8 minutes (in like, a 25 minute match) where they are on their own and fuck me its all awesome stuff. Eddie playing possum in the ring while Undertaker destroys Booker and JBL, only for Undertaker to still chokeslam the fuck out of him lol. Then Eddie picks up the title belt while Undertaker sets him up for the Last Ride, and decks him in the face. With Undertaker down, he goes for a Frog Splash, and once he hits it he jumps up to the other corner and hits another splash, only for Undertaker to kick out and sit up! Eddie looks terrified and tries to high tale it out of their, but Undertaker drags him back only to get a kick to the balls, allowing Eddie to take him down and hit a frog splash from the top of a ladder! Then JBL pulls the ref out and things turn back into a 4 way match lol. But yeah, so much fucking fun in the exchanges they had, and it sucks so fucking much that they never got the chance to have a singles match .

Edit: Shit, was actually only about 3 minutes they got together lol. Seemed a lot longer in a VERY good way though.
Lol, not so much about the match than just Undertaker/Eddie . Ah well. That was the important part of the match. Booker T can fuck off. Worst part of JBL's title reign was when he had to feud with him.
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WCW Japan Supershow 1991 - U.S. Tag Team Titles vs. IWGP Tag Team Titles: The Steiner Bros vs. Hiroshi Hase & Kensuke Sasaki
FUCK ME THIS IS AWESOME it was stiff, brutal and a intense match with insane crowd heat and tons of great mat wrestling. ****3/4

WCW Superbrawl 1991 - WCW World Tag Titles: The Steiners vs. Lex Luger & Sting
A fan fucking-static match with balls to the ball action from start to finish. The crowd was electric and cheered each and every move from all four guys. Even the ending was great because it was part of an outside storyline and show STING was a hell of a tag partner. ****3/4

Both these matches were at least 12 minutes long and really showed tag wrestling at it's best.
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Lol, not so much about the match than just Undertaker/Eddie . Ah well. That was the important part of the match. Booker T can fuck off. Worst part of JBL's title reign was when he had to feud with him.
Agreed. I didn't even bother watching their match from Survivor Series. But as a whole SS was a really entertaining show.
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Old 03-22-2012, 11:48 AM   #525 (permalink)
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WCW Japan Supershow 1991 - U.S. Tag Team Titles vs. IWGP Tag Team Titles: The Steiner Bros vs. Hiroshi Hase & Kensuke Sasaki
FUCK ME THIS IS AWESOME it was stiff, brutal and a intense match with insane crowd heat and tons of great mat wrestling. ****3/4

WCW Superbrawl 1991 - WCW World Tag Titles: The Steiners vs. Lex Luger & Sting
A fan fucking-static match with balls to the ball action from start to finish. The crowd was electric and cheered each and every move from all four guys. Even the ending was great because it was part of an outside storyline and show STING was a hell of a tag partner. ****3/4

Both these matches were at least 12 minutes long and really showed tag wrestling at it's best.
Not a fan of that Japan Supershow tag, but I did quite like the Superbrawl match. Not even close to as much as you though lol, I'm not a big fan of "your turn, my turn" MOVES~! matches these days. Plus I really fucking hate Sting .

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Like the start of this match, with Rick starting out against Lex. Lex is probably the strongest man in the match, as JR tells us, and Rick, the dog faced gremlin, literally FIGHTS to push Luger into the corner during a collar and elbow tie up. It doesn’t hurt Lex, it doesn’t give Rick an advantage in the match, but he WANTS to do it just so he can get in Lex’s mind. And with Lex a little pissed that Rick “overpowered” him into the corner, Rick then takes Lex down to the mat where he clearly has the advantage over Luger. Mind games from Steiner? I’d say so.

Steiner then mixes up his power with wrestling, hitting moves like German suplex, until Lex just has enough and knocks Rick for six with a monstrous clothesline! Sting gets the tag and brings out his strength, the high flying schtick, and then plays his own mind games with Steiner by using his own power!

Scott gets the tag and they keep going with both guys in the ring trying to overpower each other and whatnot, and it ends up becoming a “your turn, my turn” with power moves, but the fast pace and the great crowd and the fact it isn’t a 20 minute match makes it more enjoyable than anything else.

In the end Nikita Koloff shows up and hits Sting with a chain, and the Steiners are able to get a pin.

Definitely one of the better and more fun “your turn, my turn” tag matches that I can think of.

Rating: ***1/2
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It was kind of badass that a heel walked out of WM2000 with the belt and I probably like HHH more than the Rock. The moment at Backlash where Rock won the title was sweet but I just wish that would have happened at a bigger PPV.
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Backlash probably wouldn't have been as good as it was had WM not ended the way it did. So thank fuck it did because Backlash is one of THE very best PPV's of all time. Makes WM 17 look like a pile of steaming TNA PPV shit .
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I'm going to watch HBK/Taker 25 and 26 as well as HHH/Taker from last year over the weekend before I head out to Miami. Want to get the whole series right in my head before this damn cell match lol. I watched HBK/Flair from 24 for the hell of it a day ago or so too. Considering the fact that I've decided to completely ignore Flair's existence in TNA, this still held up as an emotional roller coaster ride. I loved it then and still love it now. The crowd response after is just incredible. If I had to stick an old snowflake on it I guess I'd go ****1/4. The actual match itself isn't anything amazing although Flair does bust out a few Godly moves lol. But the emotion, story and fan reaction make this match for me. Flair's match with HHH on the last Raw of 2007 is a little gem for me as well. Great match.
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Yeah I really didn't enjoy Mania 2000.

Apart from the Triple Threat Tag Ladder match the entire card was either a disappointment or just flat out sucked. I haven't watched every Wrestlemania so I have no issue calling it the worst Mania of all time (yes even worse than 15).

2004 is such a strange year. It's just a constant mix of good and bad things. It really started well and the first 4 months is basically everything you want to see in wrestling. Mania was stacked with highly anticipated matches & the feuds were built strongly. The biggest criticisms one could make would be mere nit-picks (eg. Why didn't Benoit get his revenge against Lesnar?).

But then Goldberg, Lesnar & Austin all left after Mania 20 and Angle would resume a GM role while he rehabbed his injured freakin' neck & I believe Show took some time off as well. Smackdown was already reeling after the loss of Benoit & Edge but they really suffered when those aforementioned guys left and things were so bad they had to have the Dudley Boyz main event PPVs and put Haas in the title picture at one point.

I think the big problem was that the WWE played it way too safe that year on Smackdown - the plan seemed very transparent, groom John Cena to defeat an established JBL. Now, there's nothing wrong with predictability - if you thought the Rock was going to main event Mania 2000 that's great but where's the fun in a feud without twists along the way? For example, have Cena face JBL at a prior PPV (preferably Survivor Series because Booker didn't deserve a shot) and have him just fall short but book it such a way that we want Cena to get a rematch but JBL is going to hold out and jeopardise it by teasing other match ups. That's simple but exciting booking and would have worked wonders in getting everyone on board with Cena from the out-set.

Another issue I had with 04 is the quality of PPVs. I'm not sure if it's because the TV product was so good but I found most of the PPVs pretty disappointing that year and very few really stand out as good. TV on the other hand seemed to give away PPV calibre matches every 2 weeks. HBK/Benoit, HHH/Benoit Iron Man, Benoit & Edge/Evolution, Edge/Orton, Jericho/Christian Steel Cage, JBL/Eddie Steel Cage, Angle/Eddie III, Cena/Taker etc. were all quality matches that could have drawn money if they weren't whored out on tv so often.

And a lot of storylines sucked. Benoit was booked as a mid-carder as champion and the WWE had no problems telling you the real stars of the show were Hunter & Michaels in a sickeningly indulgent feud that lead to one of the wankiest HiaC matches of all time. A retard dominated the bulk of Raw, the diva search was in full swing, Kane/Lita was crap & a lot of things just flat out tanked. Edge was warming as one of the bigger faces in the company back in '03 but by the time he came back they booked him way too strong, too early and made him a bland angry face. Orton flat out sucked as a babyface and nobody sympathised with him & I thought a lot of guys (Tajiri, Rhyno, Hurricane etc.) got lost in the shuffle.

TL;DR - Great start, some great TV matches but plenty of things that ruin what could have been a great year.
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I'm going to watch HBK/Taker 25 and 26 as well as HHH/Taker from last year over the weekend before I head out to Miami. Want to get the whole series right in my head before this damn cell match lol. I watched HBK/Flair from 24 for the hell of it a day ago or so too. Considering the fact that I've decided to completely ignore Flair's existence in TNA, this still held up as an emotional roller coaster ride. I loved it then and still love it now. The crowd response after is just incredible. If I had to stick an old snowflake on it I guess I'd go ****1/4. The actual match itself isn't anything amazing although Flair does bust out a few Godly moves lol. But the emotion, story and fan reaction make this match for me. Flair's match with HHH on the last Raw of 2007 is a little gem for me as well. Great match.
I watched all of these matches within the last week lol. All of them held up from the last time I viewed them. WM25 > WM26 > WM24 = WM27. Magnificent storytelling overall and all four connect which is incredible.
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