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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

I wasn't planning on getting started so quickly but I had to stay in for a few hours so I figured I'd watch the four matches from the Rumble that interested me.

First up we have:

Bryan/Show/Henry Steel cage match - I did enjoy this quite a lot. I thought Bryan played the desperate underdog(with a hint of heel) very well and basically tried escaping whenever he could to try and get out of there complete with World heavyweight championship. He takes a beating and picks his spots well so no complaints there. Henry and Show are there first and foremost to inflict pain which I thought was encapsulated rather humorously with Henry shouting "CLOSE THE DOOR" at the ref after Bryan tries escaping through it.
On a side note, I absolutely despise the fact that the door is allowed to be used as a means of escape in cage matches. I realise a large part of being a wrasslin fan is suspending ones belief but when it pertains to this particular issue I find it extremely difficult.
Anyways, as I said I enjoyed this and I thought each man played their part well in a pretty damn solid match. Weirdly however, I could've sworn I enjoyed the match a lot more at the time and actually remember it being quite different. The strange thing is I wasn't even drinking when I watched it.

Kane/Cena - I wasn't expecting a great deal from this and was actually contemplating skipping it but I vaguely remembered being pleasantly surprised with it the first time around. They start out just throwing punches at eachother which makes sense. Kane then takes a bump over the steel steps which actually surprised me a little bit. The momentum doesn't last long though when Cena fails with an AA attempt to lead into Kane then controlling the match. It then becomes your "standard Cena match" with Kane beating down Cena and John selling it well with the occasional comeback attempt/cutoff etc etc. The match ends in a double count out leading into a further brawl with Kane beating down Cena with a chair. Then we get all of the Kane/Cena/Ryder/Eve stuff to further the storyline blah blah don't really care. Overall I enjoyed the match and can't really think of anything overly negative to say about it. Nothing special enough to go out of your way to see but also not bad enough to completely avoid.

CM Punk/Dolph Ziggler - I went into this match expecting quite a lot and although I thoroughly enjoyed the match, it didn't reach the "great" level I thought it had the potential to. Still very good though. Started off well with both men jostling for position with some nice counters. Punk locks an abdominal stretch on Ziggler while simultaneously hitting him with a barrage of elbows and proceeding to yell "Best in the World". Ziggler repays the favour afterwards onces he gains the advantage (with a pretty sweet move pulling Punk off the top and making him land on the turnbuckle on the back of his head) by planting about 10 elbows to a grounded Punk. So yeh I thought that was a nice touch. After that Ziggler works the neck for a bit until Punk comes back and they both trade some sweet moves/counters etc. I enjoyed everything up until the point in the match where it became very blatantly about Punk and Big Johnny rather than Punk and Ziggler. Punk has Ziggler beaten on three consecutive occasions which I thought was complete overkill. I get it, you want to further the Punk/Laurinaitis storyline but honestly once really is enough. Anyway, Ziggler performs a really cool counter to the GTS for a 2 count....then Punk wins. As I said it is a very good match with good pacing/moves/counters/bumps etc but the ending did detract a bit for me. Felt it was completely unnecessary for Punk to have Ziggler beat three times and then actually beat him.

No time to watch the Rumble right now so I'll either watch it later or tomorrow. Don't have my hopes super high though because I don't remember too much I enjoyed. However, we shall see I suppose.

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Anyone else find themselves enjoying the Orton/Kane matches from this year more than they expected?



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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

I've enjoyed all of their matches more than I ever expected. From the No DQ match they had last year on Smackdown to WrestleMania and Extreme Rules this year. Their chemistry is so different, it's kind of weird to describe but I like it. Same with Edge and Kane.


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Yes. The Mania match was enjoyable simply because I wasn't expecting Orton to lose cleanly (and I'm guessing that's why they went with that finish).

The ER match was a fun brawl, reminiscent of the oldschool Hardcore title matches that took place throughout the entire arena. LOL @ the Ryder cameo.





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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Orton/Kane from Mania was much better than it had any right to be lol. Maybe my enjoyment came from the fact that I was still laughing my ass off at Bryan jobbing in 18 seconds though. Yeah, that might be it lol.

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Anyone else find themselves enjoying the Orton/Kane matches from this year more than they expected?
They certainly had some good matches. People think Kane is a bad wrestler but he's a had a very good year imo.

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Liked their WM match (was a better MATCH than Rock/Cena). Not a fan of their ER match (saw most of it at a live show a couple of weeks before lol). SD match was alright from what I remembered.
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Yes. The Mania match was enjoyable simply because I wasn't expecting Orton to lose cleanly (and I'm guessing that's why they went with that finish).

The ER match was a fun brawl, reminiscent of the oldschool Hardcore title matches that took place throughout the entire arena. LOL @ the Ryder cameo.
I remember reading an article from WM weekend where Orton and Kane both said they had no idea why they were feuding.

Agreed, I liked the backstage portion of the ER match quite a bit. They've had Kane pretty much murder Ryder and I don't think he's ever gotten revenge.

I was actually really shocked when Kane won the WM one but I thought the finish was pretty cool.



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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

I remember reading that too.

It was pretty hilarious on Monday when they referenced the beating Ryder has taken from Kane and Ryder was super cautious approaching the ring to be his teammate.





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