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post #5151 of 20566 (permalink) Old 08-22-2012, 12:56 AM
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Thought HHH/Lesnar was awesome. Heard people say it was slow and plodding and boring. Didn't think that at all, the match flew by for me. Also don't understand the comparisons to the Cena match. They couldn't possibly have worked the same kind of match. This worked just fine. HHH has always been built up as more of a badass than Cena who plays the underdog babyface role so often against bigger guys. Made sense for HHH to have the amount of offense he had. It didn't have the realness of the Cena match but come on what match in the history of the company does? Felt more like a legit fight to me than 90% of the WWE stuff I've ever seen. Only Cena/Lesnar and shit involving dudes like Finlay and Benoit feel more real. The psychology was perfect. HHH tried to hang in there with Brock, got overwhelmed, accidentally found Lesnar's weakness and a chance to win, but Brock still had too much for him. I actually think this goes perfectly with the Cena match. The beating that Lesnar put on him at Extreme Rules was so brutal that simple stuff like Hunter's early clotheslines seemed like a big deal (plus Brock flew over those ropes like a madman). The Cena match is better, that's for sure, but I enjoyed the hell out of this nonetheless. If I had to throw a rating at it I'd say 4 stars.

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Glad to read you enjoyed it Ownage. You explained the psychology and story of the match well and the way Lesnar and Trips executed it I enjoyed the intense pace they set. However, I can see why some people would not like a pace that deliberate and some are just not into Trips' face in peril segments.


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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

omfg Ownage(TM)

Spot on with everything you said. Early on in the Cena match (if we're really forced to compare), Cena's random wild punches weren't going to phase Brock, who took him down with ease. Brock opened the same way against HHH by charging him into the corner. HHH had to respond by surprising Brock and taking him off his game (clotheslines sending Brock FLYING over the top rope "like a madman"). The psychology (and Brock's selling) was perfect, and the bit you added about them being two separate matches is dead right. HHH's character is completely different from Cena's. Cena (despite always winning) is constantly built up as an underdog babyface (especially when facing larger, more threatening opponents), whereas HHH has been a badass ever since he acquired "The Game" persona. Heel or face, HHH's character has generally stayed the same. That being said, of course the matches weren't going to be the same. We're likely never going to witness a match like Lesnar/Cena again, but Lesnar/HHH was damn good.





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I'm going to watch Lesnar/Trips again tomorrow to see if it goes up or down at all.

Gonna watch a couple matches from MITB over again too. SD MITB and Punk/Bryan.



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I loved Bryan/Punk from MITB. Probably right around ****+.

Wasn't quite as good as their OTL bout, obviously.





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Man, I love that OTL match. I was expecting it to be good and all, but they really tore down the house with that performance. Crowd was so into it, too.



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Randy Savage vs The Ultimate Warrior SS 92 : **** 1/4


Macho-Warrior II might be the least talked about classic championship match in WWE history. IMO Warrior's best title match, him and Savage just go back and forth exchanging big move after big move for nearly 30 minutes (by the way, this might be the most colorful match of all time if you look at what these two wear to the ring) , with Flair and Perfect coming to ringside and trying to start shit, only to become torn to bits by the end of the night. The near falls and counters were there, and I thought the ending was necessary given that neither man really deserved to lose here. Another 1992 classic WWF championship match.
I will agree that it is one of the biggest sleeper hits in SummerSlam and early 90s WWF history. I thought it was a fantastic match with the two larger-than-life characters of Macho Man and The Warrior battling once again for the top prize in the industry. It obviously is not as dramatic as their classic at WrestleMania VII with the stakes higher than ever before with their careers on the line but you could feel the enormity of this main event championship match. Savage's selling of his injury was stellar as was he's guidance of Warrior to another one of the best matches of his career. Along with Rick Rude or the "Ultimate Challenge" with Hogan, Savage probably brought out the best in Warrior in the ring. Everyone should watch this great match and give some of the SummerSlam 92 glory to it because Savage and Warrior deserve it for their efforts here.


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So I've decided to go back through each PPV from this year and watch anything that interests me from each event. Currently my top 10 PPV matches are:

1.Cena/Lesnar ER
2.HHH/Taker WM
3.Punk/Bryan OTL
4.Punk/Jericho WM
5.Bryan/Sheamus ER
6.HHH/Lesnar SS
7.Punk/Jericho ER
8.Rock/Cena WM
9.Punk/Bryan MitB
10.Sheamus/Jericho/Del Rio/Orton OTL

I haven't watched the majority of the matches since the events happened so I expect this to change a fair bit what with me watching a lot of them with mates/drinking etc. The top 3 I have at 5 stars a piece currently but I'm not so sure how they'll hold up on a completely sober rewatch without company to cause any distractions.
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My top 10 matches

1. Cena V Johnny Ace OTL *****
2. HHH V Taker HIAC ****1/2
3. CM Punk V DB OTL ****1/2
4. CM Punk V Jericho ER ****1/4
5. Sheamus V Daniel Bryan ER ****1/4
6. Lensar V Cena ****1/4 ER (GODDAMN EXTREME RULES WAS FUCKING GOOD)
7. CM Punk V Jericho WM ****
8. CM Punk V Daniel Bryan MITB ****
9. Sheamus V Orton V Jericho V Del Rio OTL ***3/4
10 Rock V Cena ***3/4

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My top 10 matches

1. Cena V Johnny Ace OTL *****

2. HHH V Taker HIAC ****1/2
3. CM Punk V DB OTL ****1/2
4. CM Punk V Jericho ER ****1/4
5. Sheamus V Daniel Bryan ER ****1/4
6. Lensar V Cena ****1/4 ER (GODDAMN EXTREME RULES WAS FUCKING GOOD)
7. CM Punk V Jericho WM ****
8. CM Punk V Daniel Bryan MITB ****
9. Sheamus V Orton V Jericho V Del Rio OTL ***3/4
10 Rock V Cena ***3/4
Apart from the bolded I can't disagree with any of that.


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