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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Brock winning because of his arrogance and getting caught by a few moves at the end would have been fine with me if it wasn't the standard finish to a standard Cena match every week. The fact that Lesnar killed him for 99% and then gets hit by literally 2 moves iirc to get beat doesn't sit well with me at all. Ugh. The more I think about it the more it annoys me lol.
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Hesitant to give full fives, Cal?

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Brock winning because of his arrogance and getting caught by a few moves at the end would have been fine with me if it wasn't the standard finish to a standard Cena match every week. The fact that Lesnar killed him for 99% and then gets hit by literally 2 moves iirc to get beat doesn't sit well with me at all. Ugh. The more I think about it the more it annoys me lol.
Saddest thing was that was followed up by "INTENSE" JOHN CENA VS THE "GIANT" BIG SHOW AND "CORPORATE" JOHNNY.

All the while we got lolpunknotmaineventing with ****3/4 star and **** star matches.



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Top 5 for me

1. Punk/Bryan - OTL - ****3/4
2. Trips/Taker - WM - ****1/2
3. Punk/Jericho - WM - ****1/2
4. Cena/Lesnar - ER - ****1/2
5. Punk/Henry - Raw 4/2 - ****1/4

Honorable mentions to Sheamus/Bryan (****1/4), Bryan/Punk MITB (****), Punk/Jericho ER (****), Ziggler/Sheamus (***3/4), Ziggler/Jericho (***3/4) and Punk/Henry Raw UK (***3/4)

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WWE Top 5 Of The Year

Punk/Bryan @ Over The Limit - **** 3/4
Fella/Bryan @ Extreme Rules - **** 1/2
Bork/Cena @ Extreme Rules - Unrateable
Punk/Henry 1st Match - **** 1/4
Punk/Jericho @ Extreme Rules - **** 1/4

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Hesitant to give full fives, Cal?
Nope . Good chance before the year is over I'll throw ***** at Bryan Vs Punk lol.
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The thing that bothered me most about Cena/Lesnar isn't the finish, but the post-match bullshit. Cena took the biggest beating of his life, cuts a sympathy promo about taking time off that puts HHH's sob story last night to shame, then shows up the very next night as good as new. Fuck. That.

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I need to fucking see Aries/Roode from HC Justice. I loved the first one.



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That wasn't even close to the 'standard Cena finish'. He got the utter shit kicked out of him, bled off of some ridiculous elbow strikes, had his left arm nearly separated by a Kimura and got suplexed and bumped from Chicago to Miami. Lesnar was unleashing offence never before seen in the company and that combined with his presence made for a legitimate monster. Freakin' Umaga didn't come close to making Cena look as vulnerable and sympathetic as Lesnar did. Cena unleashing a 2-3 minute comeback flurry would have sucked, the finish allowed him to get just enough in to highlight him as a company ace who can always find a way to win, but protecting Lesnar by ensuring he got caught by a quick comeback and was pinned before he could even regain his composure. He was also hit with steel chain right off the skull and a subsequent AA onto the steel steps, that's as close to a legitimate pinfall Cena will ever get on an opponent for the foreseeable future and the fact it was one of the very few bits of offence he managed to get in just got over how utterly dominant Lesnar had been, and how much it took for Cena to somehow find an unlikely way to win. There's a shit superman finish like the I Quit match vs Miz, and then there's bumping and selling your ass off for 20 minutes and building to that all or nothing comeback which has an entire arena rooting for you to pin this monstrous bastard.

Lesnar losing last night would have been disastrous because he wasn't allowed to look nearly as good as he was in Chicago. Sure his selling was on point and they have this right balance where he sells enough to look human but still be a motherfucking machine on offence, but no matter how psychologically succint his armwork was he didn't look nearly as ferocious in the beating he gave HHH compared to the one he unleashed on Cena. Last night he looked like a more aggressive heel, doing stuff that other guys would do but doing it in such a way it looked far more legit and vicious. In Chicago he looked on another planet to any other WWE heel between his offence and presence, he might have lost but he absolutely destroyed the company ace with little sweat and if anything was simply beaten by his own arrogance and reckless approach. Cena looked a million dollars and was finally given a set of balls as a character, the subsequent Johnny Ace feud killed what good could have come from that finish, because Cena finally having some depth and maturity could have been fresh for the character, and Lesnar returning down the line to dethrone Cena as WWE Champion could have made for quite the 'Oh Shit, Lesnar just killed Cena: he's even stronger than he was at Extreme Rules, we're all fucked' moment.
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I need to fucking see Aries/Roode from HC Justice. I loved the first one.
Blows their first match away easily imo, and I loved their first match (***3/4). TNA have also given us some awesome matches this year too. A top 20 for WWE and TNA combined probably wouldn't drop below ***3/4 ratings lol.
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