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post #5011 of 20566 (permalink) Old 08-20-2012, 01:00 PM
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

I really hope Brock is featured up until and including Survivor Series, I don't wanna wait 'till Rumble/Mania.
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I completely agree with all of this. I really liked the story, Brock's arm work, HHH's stomach work on Brock and both guys sold really well (mainly Brock). Brock no selling the Pedigree was definitely off putting, but I loved (like Starbuck said) HHH genuinely thinking he could beat Lesnar and then just getting destroyed for the majority of it and then tapping/getting his arm fucked up again.

I also agree with what Starbuck said about the aura Brock brings with him to the ring. An example would be near the start of the match when Brock takes his gloves off and smiles at HHH, as stupid as this sounds, for a second I genuinely thought 'Oh shit, HHH is legit fucked now' lol. He also comes off as having no fucking concern for his own well being when he wrestles, the bumps he took off the clotheslines over the ropes and the way he launched himself off the table onto HHH, as well as in the Cena match in the spot were he jumped over the rope. The guy comes off as a mentally unstable beast, and it's awesome.
I love the fact that HHH was so confident that he could beat Brock heading in. Hey, maybe that's why they had Cena go over at ER, so that HHH was fooled into thinking he could beat him . Lol. Seriously though, he legit thought he could go toe to toe with Lesnar and in the beginning he managed to stay out of trouble. This is my house. This is WWE not UFC. He thought he could do it. Then the gloves came off and he absolutely got his ass handed to him and got his arm broken again. Him saying sorry at the end was an awesome touch and while the you tapped out chants were obviously not expected, I reckon they play perfectly into what he could and should say tonight. What was he apologizing for and to who? To the fans? To Stephanie? To the company? To Shawn? To himself? It's just another layer that makes me appreciate what they did even more. The expression on his face at the end was awesome for me too because it looked like acceptance of the fact that he got beat and badly at that. He made the challenge and ultimately he lost the match. The fact that he just accepted it so quickly is rather intriguing to me.

As for Brock, he just has a surreal aura around him that nobody else in the WWE has ever had before, not even Brock himself in his first run. It really is incredible. Both this match and the match with Cena didn't feel like WWE matches to me. It was like I was watching something just teetering off the edge if that makes sense. I simply adore that element to both matches which is probably why I rate them so highly lol. I was pissed after Cena went over at ER and a lot of damage was done with that loss but it has to be said and credit where it's due, they managed to offset that damage last night. Lesnar said he would fuck HHH up and he did, on his own, with no help, no weapons, nothing. He did it with his bare hands and humbled one of WWE's 'toughest' guys ever. Before this match the idea of Taker/Lesnar didn't appeal to me at all. Now it's something I will highly look forward to if it happens. Brock may not be a talker but fuck me can the man fight lol. He is just sheer physical presence personified and legitimately looks like he enjoys hurting people. It's awesome. 2 matches this year and 2 matches in my top 5. DAT BORK.
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I'm so impressed that Cole actually calls the Kimura correctly. All last night the Koji Clutch was suddenly the Anaconda Vice.

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So after watching Lesnar/HHH again, I do appreciate the psychology of the match a little bit more. Still though the pace and Lesnar's repeated offense keep it from being a great match as it's just way too boring. I honestly struggle how people enjoyed the match as much as they apparently did... but then again it's the same story for the last two Taker/HHH WM matches. I just can't get into matches that sacrifice action for drama/storytelling... though the drama/storytelling was very tame in comparison to the two Taker/HHH matches.

I still have it at ***, but it's a higher *** match now.

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I put Lesnar vs HHH at ***1/2. Dead crowd, lack of intensity and Lesnar going for the Kimura too many times brings it down a notch but the psychology and selling of the weak body-parts was great. Good effort from both men and unlike Lesnar/Cena, the right man won this time.

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What the hell, MOTYC ratings? I'm sorry, there's no way. Triple H vs. Brock Lesnar was awful.


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I'm really surprised at the positivity for HHH vs. Lesnar in this thread. Surprised people are mixed about this.

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Triple H v. Lesnar is the first match I've looked forward to that's not at Mania maybe since last years Punk/Cena feud. Lots of mixed reviews, I suppose I'll just have to find it and watch it myself...

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I'm not surprised. I knew after watching it that it was going to be a marmite match lol. I can fully understand why those who didn't like it didn't like it. Watching Lesnar is truly a spectacle for me though in this current run of his so anything he does I'm going to be glued to the screen. Throw in HHH and I'm sold lol. Cena/Lesnar is the better match and HHH/Lesnar wasn't what I was expecting but I still enjoyed the hell out of it for different reasons than what I thought I would heading in.
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Cena/Lesnar was pretty much the same on here the day after. Some people loved it, some hated it. Lesnar matches in 2012 are just so different from what we're used to with both Lesnar and WWE in general. Understandable that some people wouldn't like them.
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