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post #4981 of 20566 (permalink) Old 08-20-2012, 01:34 AM
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

HHH/Taker WM28
Lesnar/Cena ER
Lesnar/HHH SS
Punk/Jericho ER
Punk/Bryan MITB

No specific order or concrete star ratings atm.

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Upon further review and time to think and reflect, I still do believe that Punk-Bryan from OTL would be my MOTY so far. What a year we have had in terms of matches this year , just to recap my top 10 matches of the year as of now :

1. Punk-Bryan OTL **** 3/4
2. HHH-Lesnar SS **** 1/2
3. Cena-Lesnar ER **** 1/2
4. HHH-Taker WM **** 1/2
5. Punk-Jericho WM **** 1/2
6. Sheamus-Bryan ER **** 1/2
7. Punk-Jericho ER **** 1/4
8. Punk-Bryan MITB ****
9. Punk-Henry (RAW) ****
10. Punk-Bryan-Kane NWO *** 3/4

WOTY by far : CM Punk.

How TOP HEAVY this year has been is absolutely insane. Seems to me as if WWE is cranking out more and more **** + matches and -*** matches, whilst producing less 3 to 4 star contests. Some people enjoy the trade off in productivity and stars, but I feel the overall consistency of the product has faltered downwards. Seems like last year we were getting consistent ***+ matches on every PPV, whilst this year we are getting waaaay less GOOD matches and more CLASSICS.

Take a PPV like Extreme Rules for example. Outside of the 3 CLASSICS, the rest of the card is essentially filler, squashes, and random bullshit. Would you prefer that over a card such as Vengeance 2011 which IMO has ZERO ****+ matches, but only one match that's under *** ? Sure, Extreme Rules may be packed with classics, but it definitely doesn't flow better than a CONSISTENTLY GREAT PPV. It's a wonderful debate if you really sit down and think about it.





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I prefer a handful of classics than a hoard of good-great matches. Legit.

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Take a PPV like Extreme Rules for example. Outside of the 3 CLASSICS, the rest of the card is essentially filler, squashes, and random bullshit. Would you prefer that over a card such as Vengeance 2011 which IMO has ZERO ****+ matches, but only one match that's under *** ? Sure, Extreme Rules may be packed with classics, but it definitely doesn't flow better than a CONSISTENTLY GREAT PPV. It's a wonderful debate if you really sit down and think about it.
I would make prefer a PPV like Extreme Rules 2012, give me a handful of 4 stars matches on a card and fillers, then a consistent 3 star match quality PPV. I wanna see matches that I'll remember for along time, rather then a consistently solid PPV that will have no matches that ill remember by the time the year is out.



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I prefer a handful of classics than a hoard of good-great matches. Legit.
My interpretation of a classic is way, way, way different to most people, but I agree with this. A six match show with three matches being great and three being OK is way more my thing than a six match with six matches being merely "good".

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

End of an Era
Lesnar/Cena
Punk/Jericho (WM)
Punk/Bryan (OTL)
Sheamus/Bryan (ER)

It was a show filled with ok matches, which for me is a show i regret ordering.
The crowd was luckwarm the entire night.

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Ziggler/Jericho - ***3/4
Kane/Bryan - **2/3
Miz/Rey - ***
Sheamus/Del Rio - ***3/4
Kofi/Truth vs PTP - **
Cena/Punk/Show - **3/4
Lesnar/HHH - ***

The show had a really solid undercard , but faded towards the end.

Main event was meh . There are ways to do great brawls without weapons, but if they had the "No DQ" thing (which was actually quite clever) they might as well have used it for at least half of the match. The action was dull, and the story of Brock's stomach was way too subtle for its own good. While there were some good story telling during the match if there isn't sufficent action I can really get invested , similar to HHH/Undertaker at WM27.But what was their logic with regards to Brock no selling a second pedigree? That just looked bizarre.

ADR/Sheamus was a big improvement , I think they could really flurish in a gimmick match. The finish was convoluded , can't wait for SHEAMUS IS A TWEENER OMGZZZ threads.

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Chris Jericho vs. Dolph Ziggler - ***1/4
Kane vs. Daniel Bryan - ***
Rey Mysterio vs. The Miz - ***
Sheamus vs. Del Rio - ***
Tag Match - **
Cena/Punk/Big Show - **1/2
HHH/Lesnar - **3/4

The reactions for Punk/Bryan/Ziggler are great. They don't need these old guys hogging the main event spotlight. Had this PPV had the Orton/Christian and Punk/Cena main events we saw last year we could have been looking at a classic. Opening hour and a half was excellence.
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Summerslam 2012
Ziggler/Jericho - ***1/4
Kane/Bryan - ***
Miz/Rey - ***1/2
Sheamus/Del Rio - ***1/4
Kofi/Truth vs PTP - *
Cena/Punk/Show - *1/2
Lesnar/HHH - **1/4

Show started of well with a fun match between Ziggler/Y2J and a match showcasing Daniel Bryan's ability to carry Kane to a good match.

I'm really high on Miz/Mysterio. I'm climbing on the Mysterio bandwagon. Better late than never. His comeback here was awesome and it made the near-falls feel that much meaningful.

Del Rio/Fella was a big improvement over their last match. The fact they got me to give two shits about them shows this. I could probably sit through and enjoy a gimmick match with these two.

The triple threat was pretty bad. It says something when Big Show is the best performer in a match. He came off looking like a monster. Punk and Cena really didn't do anything of merit. Poor wrestling and very poorly booked.

HHH/Lesnar was a letdown. It start of well enough with Lesnar squashing HHH but it went on for way too long and they couldn't find ways to keep it interesting. Lesnar also killed the credibility of the Kimura by locking it on way too often. I didn't like the Kurt Angle levels of finishing trading at the end either. I did, however loved it when HHH went after Lesnar's stomach. It was a subtle nod to Lesnar's life threatening illness but it came off as very effective and it was the best thing about the match. Hey, at least Lesnar got that big win that he needed.

Overall:
Good undercard, but the match quality takes a turn for the worst after Del Rio/Sheamus. Seek out the good, skip the bad.
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I absolutely love watching Lesnar in this current run. When he comes out, the atmosphere changes, the aura changes. It doesn't feel like WWE, it feels like something caught in the middle of what's real and what isn't and I love the dynamic it brings to his matches, absolutely love it. This match will most likely polarize because of the guys in it and also because I think people will either love it or hate it. If you are a fan of psychology though I don't see how you can't love it because it was 100% a psychological battle of Lesnar trying to break HHH's arm right from the beginning all the way through to HHH trying to fuck up Lesnar's stomach towards the end. Everything they did to each other was targeted to those specific body parts. I get that some may find that boring but the story they were telling was pretty flawless imo. Brock knows HHH's arm is fucked so why would he go for anything else? There were some pretty brutal fucking spots too and the selling from both of them just blew me away. HHH sold that arm like it was about to fall off and I legit thought Lesnar was going to die from his stomach. Wow.

Fantastic match and I can't believe some people are complaining over the finish. Seriously? HHH MUST LOSE 2 DA BORK OH FUCK BORK NO SOLD DA PEDIGREE DEN MADE HHH TAP OUT DEN MADE HIM CRY I DONT LIKE THIS FINISH ITS SHIT DURRRR. The man is damned if he does damned if he doesn't it seems. Either way, I enjoyed the hell out of this and while I would have liked the crowd to have been a little more into it, that didn't take away from the match for me on a grand scale. I wouldn't put it above Lesnar/Cena but it's in my top 5 MOTY absolutely.

Taker/HHH, Mania 28
Lesnar/Cena, ER
Punk/Bryan, OTL
Lesnar/HHH, SS
Haven't decided on number 5 yet lol

Makes me wonder how a match with Taker will go now. Lesnar has his credibility back. He took out HBK, he possibly retired HHH, can he end the streak and end the deadman too? My interest in Taker/Lesnar has gone up considerably after last night.

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