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Old 08-16-2012, 06:08 PM   #4871 (permalink)
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What are you talking about Redead, Kurt was CLEARLY mad at Jeff because his son looked up to Jeff instead of Kurt and Kurt thought Jeff was junkie trash.

I thought they made that story obvious in their matches

Also, cheers Segunda, I'll definitely try to catch some of those matches, the Regal ones for sure
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:13 PM   #4872 (permalink)
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Regal/Finlay really is awesome, probably a top 5 WCW match of the 90s, and they both don't get the love they deserve for their WCW runs. They have a ton of really good matches that just go completely under the radar with every kind of opponent.

Also, Finlay's moustache.

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Also if you want a really fun and easy to sit through match, watch Malenko/Norman Smiley from Saturday Night 1997, its on youtube and only goes 8 minutes at best. I'm as apathetic as they come towards Malenko but he's perfect in this setting, they unleash some excellent counters that look straight out of the World of Sport playbook (especially from Smiley) and everything feels like its earned and not given up too easily which is often a common complaint I have with perfunctory matwork. Absolutely kicking myself I never watched it before submitting a top 100 WCW matches ballot, as I seriously would have had it in the bottom 25.
I was watching random WCW B-Shows recently and came to this match. Or if not, I came to a Malenko v Smiley match that was fun as hell. I'm convinced Malenko is way, way better at working shortish matches with Below-His-Level guys than long "epic mat classics" with Guerreros and Benoits. Has a lot of short, fun TV matches with Liger, Ohtani, Rey, and hell, Malenko v DISCO INFERNO from BATB 96 rules. I've never watched his match with Scotty 2 Hotty and should.
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No worries, the Regal matches are all terrific. Bar the Sting GAB match nearly all the rest of them are sub 10 minutes but packed with great strikes and holds from Regal, as well as some great build to the high spots especially in the Psicosis match where they do a terrific job in highlighting Regal's dominance in the mat exchanges and make Psicosis' high flying arsenal his sole hope of winning the TV title.

Sting match is insane just for how much offence Regal gets in considering his standing in WCW at the time, Sting's always a great FIP especially in that portion of his career before the gimmick change, and he does a great job at making Regal look like a monster and times his comeback impeccably.

If I had to pimp just one match out of that list however, it would be Savage/Hogan vs Flair/Arn. Insane TV tag match packed with wonderful elements of the southern tag formula, including a seriously all time wonderful transition spot and Arn just having the absolute best 'OH SHIT' reaction when all his offence against Hogan proves fruitless. Savage is also a really good FIP and hits maybe his all time best double axe handle going off of my hazy memory.

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I was watching random WCW B-Shows recently and came to this match. Or if not, I came to a Malenko v Smiley match that was fun as hell. I'm convinced Malenko is way, way better at working shortish matches with Below-His-Level guys than long "epic mat classics" with Guerreros and Benoits. Has a lot of short, fun TV matches with Liger, Ohtani, Rey, and hell, Malenko v DISCO INFERNO from BATB 96 rules. I've never watched his match with Scotty 2 Hotty and should.
Agreed, he's always had the holds and clean execution, but its usually putting it all together or stretching it out for a considerable period of time in the middle of the match which has been his problem. Putting him in sub 10 minute matches where he can just run through some slick and hard fought mat exchanges eliminates all his problems when working 15 minutes and longer.

He was legit awesome though in the Spokane House Show match against Eddie in 1997, I mean Eddie was sensational with all his heel sctick and playing to the crowd, but Malenko really brought the intensity that was needed in his offence and wasn't just along for the ride. The spot where Eddie goes to sucker punch Malenko with his back turned to him only to drop to his knees and offer a handshake as he sees Malenko turn around is seriously one of the best comedy heel spots I can recall, and it saddens me no-one is likely to replicate it soon.

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Old 08-16-2012, 06:22 PM   #4874 (permalink)
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I didn't like him in any Eddie match too much. Thought he just blows off the leg work and he has no idea how to work a babyface comeback. I watched Malenko/Rey from Germany and THAT shit was good. Just kept over little Rey and found various ways to stretch and torque him every which way. Wish I'd watched it before the deadline because it may have a got a vote from me. Might be the best Malenko performance I've seen and one of his top 3 matches.
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Everyone should watch Regal's WCW TV Title run. Epic, epic stuff.
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:25 PM   #4876 (permalink)
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I had a similar issue with him for nearly all of their matches, but that Spokane match proved to be the exception. I do think the House Show setting provided for a more relaxed atmosphere and allowed Eddie to really play up to the crowd and have them wanting to rip his head off, which only added to the entertainment value.

Its a shame Malenko struggled for whatever reason in the longer PPV matches, because his technique and holds definitely should have served as the basis for some very fun matches. I guess this is where guys like Eddie just appear noticeably better with their acting ability and character work only adding to their already immense technical work.

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AMEN, his style was just crazy good in how he adapted and made the sub 5 minute matches feel excellent as well as the PPV bouts. Steamboat, B Badd, Zybszko, Mysterio, Ultimo, Psicosis etc, all wonderful. That Tony Pena match might actually be the least talked about, but christ do they get a lot of stuff in for a not even 5 minute match. Regal throws some of his most vicious strikes I've seen and they work some beautifully slick mat exchanges with Pena (one of the Villanos) being exceptionally handy in hanging on the mat. Transition to the finish was also stupendous, ended up as my #99 or #100 in the end.

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Old 08-16-2012, 07:23 PM   #4877 (permalink)
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“I watched a little bit of WCW and WWF, at the time,” Griffin said. “I was a huge Goldberg fan when he had that long winning streak, which I think was ended by Kevin Nash when he was fighting for the title. I was a huge fan of Shawn Michaels, Stone Cold Steve Austin. One of my earliest memories was [Michaels] beating The Rock early in his career, and then Shawn Michaels got beat by Stone Cold, which kind of ended the first part of his career, with that Stone Cold Stunner.”
Does RGIII know something we don't or is he just making that up?

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I looked up WWF show results to see if they matched up in 1997 where Rocky was feuding with Shawn's buddy HHH, but there doesn't seem to be a single match where they were even in the same ring.
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What is everyone's PPV of the year for 2002 and 2005? Just curious.
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2002 - Summerslam easily
2005 - Vengeance
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