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Old 08-16-2012, 04:58 PM   #4861 (permalink)
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well, thats a rational and well thought out argument

im convinced

suck it cal and SEABS
Can't argue with that. Haven't even watched it but I'm gonna throw a **** on it to look conservative.

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Drew McIntyre vs Alex Riley - Superstars 8/16 - ***

Really fun match for the time it got. McIntyre is still a genius in the ring and Riley improved.
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:01 PM   #4862 (permalink)
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I just spotted your thread on that match in the NXT section Brye, in the process of watching a film but I'll give it a watch straight after. More Mcintyre I can get the better these days, I pray to christ that rumour HHH is a fan of him is true. I'm not even arsed if he ever gets a main event run, just so long as he can settles into a comfortable position and has regular matches on TV (I've said forever he needs to be given an Arn Anderson/William Regal midcard title run more than anyone in the company) and I'll be satisfied. I will absolutely lose my shit if they release him before some of the utter tosspots on the roster.
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Yeah, I don't have a problem with McIntyre just getting a push where he's on TV and relevant. He doesn't have to shoot up to being a main eventer but he deserves to be relevant.
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:10 PM   #4864 (permalink)
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I don't want to believe in a company who promote Sin Cara and Miz over Mcintyre. Guy is legit perfect to work that gate-keeper role they've always seemed to crave and just work the midcard and put on consistently good matches. Still amazes me that some people call him boring and dull in the ring when he's one of the most unique and creative wrestlers they have, and you can usually guarantee seeing at least one original and never before seen spot in a match of his.
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Unforgiven 2003:

La Resistance/Rob Conway vs Dudley Boyz - **3/4
Test vs Scott Steiner - **
Randy Orton vs Shawn Michaels - ***1/2
Trish Stratus/Lita vs Molly Holly/Gail Kim - **1/2
Kane vs Shane McMahon - ***1/4
Christian vs Chris Jericho vs Rob Van Dam - ***
Al Snow/Jonathan Coachman vs Jerry Lawler/JR - 1/2* (So awful it had me rolling all over my bed laughing. This is Lawler/Cole before Lawler/Cole, lol.)
HHH vs Goldberg - ***1/4
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:34 PM   #4866 (permalink)
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Angle/Hardy from this year's Victory Road is a MOTYC, I'm not afraid to express my opinions, it was an excellent match. ****

But Lockdown was crap.
Meh, it's not as bad as the No Surrender match but the finishing stretch loses me very easily. Kurt no sells like 3 twist of fates (gets up straight after one of them to hit Jeff with the top rope belly to belly) and one or two swantons to get the roll up. Opening exchanges are okay actually, Angle does some alright ankle work for once before the match falls apart.

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Lord Steven Regal vs Fit Finlay - WCW Uncensored 1996

WHY haven't I seen this until now. Finlay comes out sporting possibly the greatest moustache and mullet in existance and proceeds to beat the shit out of Regal the second he gets in the ring, and for about the next 19 minutes it's an absolute brutal match. Nearly all the opening pinfalls have a forearm raking the face, followed by some strikes to the nose afterwards (there's one where Regal just mounts Finlay and tries to break his face). Every hold has something going to keep it interesting and fresh and there's so much in this match which just looks legit painful. There's one spot where Finlay hurls Regal into the corner and as he stumbles out he goes for something like a back body drop but just throws Regal halfway across the ring. Pace never really lets up either and just a ton of fun to watch.

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Its an excellent match and up there with Judgement Day 2006 as the best match out of the Benoit/Regal/Finlay combo in WCW and WWE (I had it #6 on my WCW Ballot). Really nasty and violent match with some insane strikes but like you mentioned all fought for and with meaning instead of aimless stiffness for the sake of being stiff. Everything is well earned and not given up, and fuck finish aside the match is flawless. There's that one punch as well shortly before the finish which just looked HIDEOUS: I think it was Regal striking Finlay but I could be wrong.

Also if you want a really fun and easy to sit through match, watch Malenko/Norman Smiley from Saturday Night 1997, its on youtube and only goes 8 minutes at best. I'm as apathetic as they come towards Malenko but he's perfect in this setting, they unleash some excellent counters that look straight out of the World of Sport playbook (especially from Smiley) and everything feels like its earned and not given up too easily which is often a common complaint I have with perfunctory matwork. Absolutely kicking myself I never watched it before submitting a top 100 WCW matches ballot, as I seriously would have had it in the bottom 25.

Also WCW have some seriously underrated stuff from this time, usually Nitro or Saturday Night:

Lord Steven Regal vs Psicosis, Nitro 12/16/1996
Lord Steven Regal vs Sting, Great American Bash 1996
Arn Anderson & Vader vs Stars n Stripes, Saturday Night 04/15/1995
Vader vs Ricky Steamboat, Human Cage Match, Saturday Night 10/16/1993
Dustin Rhodes vs Bunkhouse Buck, Bunkhouse Match, Spring Stampede 1994
Eddie Guerrero vs Shinjiro Ohtani, Starrcade 1995
Ric Flair & Arn Anderson vs Randy Savage & Hulk Hogan, Nitro 01/08/1996
Ric Flair vs The Giant (Big Show), Nitro 03/25/1996
Eddie Guerrero vs Ric Flair, Nitro 1996
WARGAMES, Fawlbrawl 1994
Steven Regal vs. Dean Malenko, Nitro 12/23/1996
Vader vs The Boss, Spring Stampede 1994
Benoit v Jericho, Nitro 12/30/1996 (bossy sprint match)
Chris Benoit vs Eddie Guerrero, Saturday Night 11/18/1995
Lord Steven Regal vs Ultimo Dragon, Slamboree 1997
Lord Steven Regal vs Tony Pena, Nitro 11/25/1996
Rey Mysterio vs Lord Steven Regal, Nitro 02/10/1997
Lord Steven Regal v Larry Zbyzsko, Saturday Night 05/28/1994

All of that is stuff that doesn't usually get brought up, but each match made my WCW ballot and is awesome in its own way.

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Old 08-16-2012, 05:55 PM   #4868 (permalink)
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Never heard of this Regal/Finlay WCW match. Will definitely check it out. I miss 2006 Finlay on SD!
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i actually remember seeing that angle/jeff lockdown match. its the last wrestling match i saw before giving up on the sport

for the first segment, i really liked it. kurt was a huge dick, bullied jeff, showed off, hit zero big moves and just kept wearing him down. and then one second, they just fucked logic and hit around 100 swantons and angle slams and twists of fate and then it just endlessly descended into a barrage of finishers while the crowd chanted 'this is awesome'

i just sat there thinking, i actually liked the slow part. and then when the finishers came, i just stopped giving a fuck. i knew how worthless those moves were at that point, even though from what i recall, the match wasnt over anything. they werent even really feuding.
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Never heard of this Regal/Finlay WCW match. Will definitely check it out. I miss 2006 Finlay on SD!
2006 Smackdown is probably the best year for either brand this decade, though Raw 2004 and the endlessly great Evolution vs The World tags run it pretty close. Finlay was the MVP of the year as well, everything from his debut match against Matt Hardy to the 2 Benoit TV matches and the Judgement Day PPV match as well as his matches with Taker, Regal and Mysterio were all golden. Everything he does looks vicious and has meaning to it, and despite it not being a wholly popular opinion on this forum I find Benoit/Finlay and Benoit/Regal to absolutely blow away any Benoit/Angle match.
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