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Old 08-15-2012, 06:56 PM   #4841 (permalink)
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Same.
Guys what was the ladder match on ecw that involved sabu and it was just SO bad you have to watch it. I think it was a number 1 contenders match for the Big show's title... but i can't remember who he faced...
RVD. Lots of botches.
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:56 PM   #4842 (permalink)
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It was RVD.

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Old 08-15-2012, 06:59 PM   #4844 (permalink)
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I have to watch Angle/Hardy later today. Just have to.

Also had to dig around and see if I could find Seabs' review of it.

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Kurt Angle vs Jeff Hardy - No Surrender 2010

Fucking hell. I went into it knowing I wouldn't like it because I read of all the stupid TNA shenanigans in the match but a lot of people had been saying up to that point it was a brilliant wrestling match. Fuck off btw. This is legit one of the worst matches I have ever had to sit through.

There's literally zero structure or logic to the match. They waste no time getting the mindfuck started. Angle hits a vicous powerbomb on Jeff which they make a huge deal about yet Kurt stands around for like a minute before locking in a sleeper. No pinfall btw afterwards. Fuck. Hardy starts off as he means to go on by botching a dropkick in the corner. Jeff looks a complete tool with that stupid gear and god awful facepaint he has on. He looks legit stoned and without a care in the world for this match. There's another hysterical moment soon after where Jeff supposedly counters an angle slam into a arm drag but he doesn't arm drag Kurt at all. Kurt being the pro he is decides despite Jeff not touching he'll flip over anyway. Brilliant.

They couldn't have possibly killed the idea of a finisher anymore in this one either. Jeff hits a Twist Of Fate on the outside to zero reaction. I dont think the commentators even reference it. Tazz is fucking awful btw. There's so many ex WWE guys in this company that so obviously dont care what they're doing here. Tazz is a goofball at the best of times when he's trying but he's unbearable from what I've heard in TNA which luckily isn't too much. Tenay is Tenay. Just as bad. Jeff then follows this up with a swanton to the outside from the top rope. They get back in the ring as if nothing has happened. Jeff hits another TOF in the ring followed by not one but two swantons off the top rope. Kurt kicks out of every single one. At this point Jeffrey decides lets go for yet another swanton. Kurt gets his knees up this time. Why couldn't he have done that first time around instead of hurting my brain and making Jeff's finisher look like dog shit. Jeff made them look like dog shit enough on his own to be fair. Angle hits a load of angle slams in between all this too which Jeff kicks out of every one. The number of TOF's swantons and angle slams in the match must be in double figures by the end of the match. Not to mention the most ridicoulos ankle lock segment ever. Must have been a complete 5 minutes that Kurt had the ankle lock on Jeff. Jeff never once thinks of selling any offense btw. Neither does Kurt naturally. Total mindfuck.

So after this retarded segment in the match they randomly decide the match has a 20 minute time limit that nobody was told about beforehand. If the match was so important and there needed to be a winner then why was there a time limit in the first place? Angle after having Jeff in the ankle lock for a ludacris amount of time decides to scrap that idea and goes back to working over the ankle, which he didn't even bother doing in the first 20 minutes btw. This 5 minute spell consisted of basically nothing besides Bischoff and Dixie looking bored and nervous at ringside because the match went overtime. I'm clueless as to why Dixie got so much screen time during this match despite contributing niltch to the match. So then we have another 5 minutes. Why not just say this match will carry on until there's a winner because there must be a winner and a loser? Oh no, that requires logic! Fuck me. For some reason out of nowhere Jeff decides it's his turn to have an offense segment. No ankle selling btw of course. He bashes Angle's head onto the steps and to be frank nobody notices what is happening until Kurt gets back in the ring after blading and people realise, oh something must have happened. The biggest mindfuck of the whole shenanigan comes up next when Bischoff decides after ordering not one spell of overtime but two that because Kurt has a minor gash on his head he cant continue. Kurt obviously doesn't sell his injury and acts as normal walking around the ring like it's the start of the match. I dont think Jeff knows what is happening.

I'm calling this the worst match I have ever seen. No structure, no meaning, no storyline advancement, no quality wrestling and absolutely no logic. Literally everything about this is awful. The fans starting numerous "This is Awesome" chants as well as not responding to any of the finishers was terrific. TNA fans literally give every match a "This Is Awesome" chant. Basically if you pull out a big spot you'll get that chant. It is actually worse than the stupid canadian fans using that chant for a ** match at a DGUSA event. Mind boggling. The commentary is abysmal. Tazz makes no sense and the both of them failt to pick up on the majority of what happens in the match. There is no begining, middle and end to the match. Saying they did a load of moves with no meaning has never ever been more true to a match than this. A TOF/Swanton combo on the outside was a passing gesture, as was Kurt using the ankle lock for 5 minutes. Jeff was out of his mind and his head wasn't in the state let alone the arena. Dixie and Bischoff came off as morons that cant run a company. Not in the way they booked the match but they came off like that on screen. Truly brilliant. The match led to nothing either btw. They stressed the importance of having a winner yet they end the match because of a cut. A very minor one at that. I'm pretty sure they did the same match the week after on iMPACT with no winner again.

Quite the spectacle.

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This match actually sounds fucking hilarious.
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:24 PM   #4846 (permalink)
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On paper it SOUNDS hilarious, but fuck, I've never felt so pissed off and angry at a wrestling match in my entire life. It was after that match that I decided to just stop really discussing Angle (and why I think he's a terrible pro wrestler 99% of the time).
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:39 PM   #4847 (permalink)
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That review was awesome

I have to watch this now.
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Looked up my review of the match too lol:

Spoiler for noooooo:
Kurt Angle Vs Jeff Hardy - TNA No Surrender 2010

Early going is a bit of a train wreck. Angle hits a sick looking powerbomb on Hardy, and Hardly looks to be OUT. So what does Angle do? Walk around the ring for a minute, then picks up Hardy for a sleeper. Seems Angle is retarded at both throwing out moves for the hell of it, and taking things slow .

Then the train wreck continues with some odd looking spots, botches, fans not reacting to shit, and the structure of the entire match.

I'll try to explain those a little deeper. Firstly, there is a spot where it LOOKS like Hardy hits a twist of fate, but the fans don't react to it, and neither do the commentators. Was just... weird. Then Kurt gets up and goes for an Angle Slam, which Hardy reverses into an arm drag... only Hardy lets go and Kurt ends up doing a flip on his own for no reason .

Then Jeff and Angle both hit their finishers (TOF and Angle Slam), and the fans react like someone just spat in their faces. Odd considering a few minutes ago they were chanting like crazy for both men.

From here, despite the match falling pretty fucking flat, they seem to go into a finishing stretch. Just kinda came out of nowhere. We get Angle using a sleeper on Hardy, then some finisher kick outs, then come crazy shit (Swanton off the ropes to the outside, which looked rather epic and I think its what injured Angle). Its like they are trying to make the match EPICS, and failing beyond miserably. Doesn't help that the match has only been going 10 MINUTES so far.

Does Jeff know how to hit a Swanton any more? He's done it about 3 time by this point (2 in a row btw, which Angle kicked out of...) and he keeps landing on Angle's ribs seemingly without protecting him. And of course, typical Angle, after taking all these Swantons, he gets up and hits an Angle Slam, and Hardy kicks out.

With what these guys are doing, and how the commentators are talking, I feel like this match should have gone on for about 30 minutes by now, but nope. 15. Are they intentionally trying to make a match feel twice as long as it is? I just don't get what the fuck they are doing. I was hoping that this match might actually turn out to be good, despite the super high ratings from TNA fans. Happens every time. I hear a TNA match was awesome. I go into it expecting it to be good still, but not on the level TNA fans hold it on. Then I end up wondering what is wrong with TNA fans for thinking this shit is great, and what is wrong with me for watching this shit time and time again.

Then we get a 5 minute period with Angle applying the Ankle Lock to Jeff, and the time running out before Jeff can tap (because 5 minutes in an Ankle Lock doesn't hurt too much ). Oh look, match is restarting.

Oh, its only continuing for 5 minutes. Lets see if they can have a good match this time around...

So... instead of going back to the Ankle Lock, Angle decides that 5 minutes in the Ankle Lock isn't enough... and decides to work over the Ankle instead. Does Kurt even have a finishing move any more? Because they don't seem to work as often as they should.

Why is Jeff going to the top rope? He has a fucked up Ankle. He can barely stand. Fucking moron.

and we are right back to Angle's finishers being completely meaningless. When Jeff tries to climb the ropes, and gets caught, Angle hits a SUPER Angle Slam. And Hardy still kicks out!!!

5 minutes pass, and nobody is the winner. Just declare them both losers and be done with it, because this shit is... SHIT.

Dammit. 5 more minutes, because we NEED to have a winner. Angle gets busted open, gets another Ankle Lock in, and the time runs out AGAIN. Guess its another restart since we NEED to have a winner.

Oh, wait, no. Angle's cut is too deep, and the match is a no contest. So much for NEEDING a winner. Fuck, TNA can't even be consistent during the same match!

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Fuck this pile of shit. Its 5 minutes of sloppy pointless bullshit, followed by 25 minutes of perhaps the WORST big finishing stretch I have ever seen. And the restarts? Pointless and shit. The conclusion of the match? Bullshit. They kept saying how much they NEEDED a winner, and then decide not to have one. At least that part is right, neither man is a winner in this match because they both blew.

Rating: ARGH
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:41 PM   #4849 (permalink)
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ROFL, I really have to check out that Angle/Hardy match.
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this is awesome

this is awesome

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