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Old 08-06-2012, 05:06 PM   #4571 (permalink)
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Triple H PPV Match Rankings : The List (DUD-***)

*** Cutoff
94. WM 25 vs Randy Orton
95. WM 21 vs Batista
96. SS 08 vs The Great Khali
97. SS 03 Elimination Chamber
98. JD 08 vs Randy Orton
99. SS 99 vs The Rock vs Big Show
100. UNF 04 vs Randy Orton
101. IYH 15 vs Flash Funk
102. SS 00 vs The Rock vs Kurt Angle
103. IYH 11 vs Steve Austin
104. BL 03 W/Flair & Jericho vs Michaels/Booker/Nash
105. IYH 4 vs Fatu
106. IYH 8 vs Marc Mero

** 3/4 Territory
107. NM 07 vs Randy Orton
108. SS 06 DX vs Mcmahons
109. ER 08 vs Randy Orton
110. SS 06 vs Team Rated RKO
111. INSX 03 vs Kevin Nash
112. NM 02 vs Kane
113. SS 07 Elimination Tag
114. CC 99 vs Jeff Jarrett
115. INSX 00 vs Shane Mcmahon vs The Rock
116. INSX 01 W/Steve Austin vs Undertaker
117. IYH 12 vs Marc Mero

** 1/2 Territory
118. NM 07 vs Umaga
119. OTE 99 vs The Rock
120. ER 2010 vs Sheamus
121. ARM 03 vs Kane vs Goldberg
122. WM 15 vs Kane
123. WM 13 vs Goldust
124. KOTR 97 vs Ahmed Johnson
125. SS 95 Elimination Tag
126. OTE 98 vs Nation of Domination

** 1/4 Territory
127. SS 03 vs Goldberg
128. KOTR 2000 w/Mcmahons vs Taker/Kane/Rock
129. SS 07 vs King Booker
130. UNF 03 vs Goldberg
131. UNF 07 vs Carlito
132. RR 97 vs Goldust
133. RR 96 vs Duke Drose
134. SS 96 Elimination Tag
135. IYH 6 vs Duke Drose

** Territory
136. IYH 5 vs Henry Godwinn
137. SS 95 vs Bob Holly
138. SS 08 vs Kozlov vs Edge

* 3/4 Territory
139. IYH 19 vs Sgt Slaughter
140. BL 02 vs Hulk Hogan
141. KOTR 02 vs Undertaker
142. VEN 06 DX vs The Spirit Squad

143. JD 03 vs Kevin Nash : * 1/2

144. NWO 03 vs Scott Steiner : * 1/4

145. RR 03 vs Scott Steiner : 1/2 *

146. WM XII vs The Ultimate Warrior : DUD

Once I have the entire list posted, I'm going to go completely in depth with a list of Hunter's most underrated/overrated PPV matches, best opponents based on STARZ! quality, and other MISC. Triple H fanboy activity. All I know is, this is the list that was 3 months in the making and I hope you enjoy it !
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Watched a few matches from NWO 06 myself recently. Taker/Angle holds up as an awesome match. Hardy/Tatanka v MNM was all right, and Benoit/Booker went way too long and was not the right blow off match at all. It was actually quite dull and was the worst Benoit/Booker match easily.

Seen Rey/Orton enough to know where I stand on it without watching it again, plus they need to cut the Eddie Guerrero shit out.
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CM Punk vs John Cena (Number One Contender's Match) : RAW AUG 22nd 2011

This is for the number one contendership at Night of Champions, as we are still in the middle of The Summer of Punk here. These two always put together a fantastic contest so I'm sure this will be no exception. The beginning of the match features some very impressive chain wrestling, particularly by John Cena standards, as they quickly throwback to their classic Summerslam encounter with head scissors takedowns and impressive leapfrogs by Cena. The pace here is absolutely insane, as these two are going a mile a minute in this one. Love the early finisher attempts by both men in this one that are both easily countered, I find that it hammers across that these two men are equal, and minus shenanigans neither one can beat the other one. The crowd is white hot here, as Punk mocks Cena's 5 knuckle shuffle early on, and gets in some GREAT offense which incorporates both ground and aerial techniques.

Cena's selling for Punk here is superb, as Punk hits a high knee that looks to have broken Cena absolutely in half. Both men throw out all of their stuff which seems to be really hit and miss as the contest moves towards it's climax. Two FANTASTIC near falls end us off, as it seems that neither man can put the other one down. (as a side note, Punk's counters in this are amazing) It takes Kevin Nash interference of some sort to give Cena the victory and move on to NOC. Fantastic match here with a big fight atmosphere, an amazing pace, and some impressive wrestling. A surprisingly well layered match for a contest that lasted around 11 minutes. This will be the forgotten classic that will go down in the vault of the WWE forever. One of the most remarkable TV matches that I have ever seen, and my definite TV MOTY for 2011.

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I think it's time to review CM Punk's run from the Work/Shoot to now.....
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Cant wait for the Punk DVD, whens it due out?
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What did everyone think of Bryan/Cena on RAW?

My two favourite wrestlers so I really enjoyed it, thought it was a good TV match for the time they had. Can't wait to see them get a proper feud in the years to come.
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Chris Masters VS Dolph Ziggler - Superstars, 13-5-2010
As good as expected from these two really, with some sick looking bumps from both of them (Ziggler faceplanting the floor and being slingshotted being my highlights). Match is built around the submission finishers of both guys really but Dolph keeps going to occasionally try and outpower Masters only for it to fail and have him resort to being a little shit to get the upper hand. Really liked the finish too.
***1/2

Jamie Noble vs Rey Mysterio - Velocity, 5/1/04
Awesome mat exchanges to start with and Noble going for the arm looks really painful at times plus he sticks with it throughout the match which is great to see. Really nice spots too like the northern lights suplex and armbar sequences. Highflying and mat stuff linked really well together and the match flew by.
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Rey Mysterio vs Finlay - Smackdown, June 06
Some signs of a decent match here and on paper it sounded great. But it was quite short and had a screwy finish so bleh. Did these two have any good-great matches in 06 b/c iirc Smackdown was pretty stacked then?
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Thought it (Bryan/Cena) was pretty good but I need to watch again because I was flipping to the Olympics too.
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Chris Masters VS Dolph Ziggler - Superstars, 13-5-2010
As good as expected from these two really, with some sick looking bumps from both of them (Ziggler faceplanting the floor and being slingshotted being my highlights). Match is built around the submission finishers of both guys really but Dolph keeps going to occasionally try and outpower Masters only for it to fail and have him resort to being a little shit to get the upper hand. Really liked the finish too.
***1/2

Jamie Noble vs Rey Mysterio - Velocity, 5/1/04
Awesome mat exchanges to start with and Noble going for the arm looks really painful at times plus he sticks with it throughout the match which is great to see. Really nice spots too like the northern lights suplex and armbar sequences. Highflying and mat stuff linked really well together and the match flew by.
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Rey Mysterio vs Finlay - Smackdown, June 06
Some signs of a decent match here and on paper it sounded great. But it was quite short and had a screwy finish so bleh. Did these two have any good-great matches in 06 b/c iirc Smackdown was pretty stacked then?
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Excellent stuff here, mirror your thoughts completely really. Noble/Mysterio is an underrated TV classic, and the perfect example of good juniors style wrestling with enough substance and struggle to make each exchange matter in the grand scheme of things.

Masters/Ziggler was one of the most visually pleasing matches I'd seen in forever when I first saw it, so refreshing in 2010 to see a match focusing on a full nelson vs a sleeper hold. Excellent bumping and timing from both men and a really well put together match which sold me on Masters being reborn as a worker.

Can't recall for certain how many matches Mysterio/Finlay had together, but here's a write-up from sterling about a match of theirs from 2007:

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Rey Mysterio vs. Finlay - Smackdown 11/9/2007

Really great little match. I've talked about how great Rey is at bringing out the dickweed in his opponents, and we see that early on as Finlay gives Rey a shove and looks like a total bully. JBL and Cole are great, going back-and-forth, with JBL supporting Finlay and playing devil's advocate and antagonizing Cole. Finlay looks really great on offense, and Cole puts over how he just wants to hurt Rey, and it really does look like he's just trying to fuck Rey up. Rey gets some early offense with a rana over the top to the outside, followed by a baseball kick and a moonsault. He takes it to Finlay for a while, but then Finlay kicks him in the gut to take control. Not the most stunning transition spot, but it's not a big deal because Finlay immediately looks awesome on offense, throwing nasty boots and forearms and uppercuts. Tons of awesome spots, including a callback to the rana from earlier, except this time Finlay counters and throws Rey headfirst into the buckle. He works over the back and locks in a vicious-looking Boston crab. Finlay does his usual thing of using all of the environment, throwing Rey into the ropes or the turnbuckle and smashing him into the ring and the barricade, and it's all awesome, and Rey weaves in tons of great hope spots. Really awesome moment where Finlay dodges a 619, but then Rey kicks him in the face anyway. Another great spot after Rey hits the 619: he goes for a springboard but Finlay just dives at the ropes-- the timing is really perfect-- and Rey crumples to the ground, allowing Finlay to hit his finisher. Bossy match. Maybe better than the 3/24/06 match, but they're comparable in quality, and they're both great for same reasons (Finlay's great; Rey's great), so I'm not going to argue that. Now, I do think Rey's selling could've been better while he was on offense, and it definitely wasn't on the same level as what Hardy did. But he still sold well and he bumped like a maniac and his facial expressions were all great.
Quick little search on another forum seems to indicate a consensus that this might be their best match together, at least compared to a 2006 match (no idea if its the same match you watched). I do also recall Andy doing a Finlay project and a Mysterio match being included, will search his blog now to see if its the same match.


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Andy's thoughts on Mysterio/Finlay 03/24/06:

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Finlay/Rey is a really awesome match-up, and this might be their best match together. WWE Rey Mysterio is obviously less about doing crazy shit and innovating this or that or the other than WCW Rey Mysterio was. WWE Rey Mysterio is all about selling from the bottom and making comebacks. He's a guy you can stick in there with practically anybody WWE's had on their roster for as long as he's been there and it'd result in something at least watchable. Ideally you (or at least I) want him in there with someone that can lay down a good beating...and who lays down a better beating than Fit Finlay? Match goes about 15 minutes and Finlay just beats the holy fuck out of Rey for almost all of it, while Rey does what he does and throws in his hope spots and comebacks. When these guys wrestle it feels less like Rey is being "worked over" -- he's being straight up BULLIED. Finlay just launches him spine-first into the barricade and starts working over his neck and back a bit. It's the kind of thing aspiring pro-wrestlers watch and think "nah, on second thought I'll just take that job at McDonald's. I'd rather flip burgers and spit on chicken nuggets than have Fit Finlay stretch me until my chin touches my nipples." He throws a forearm uppercut right to Rey's neck at one point and it looked just motherfucking ungodly. Rey also seemed to ramp up the stiffness on his end any time he'd work with Finlay, and he really lays in a few shots here. Finlay tries to roll him up with a sunset flip, but Rey rolls all the way through and completely blasts his ear off with a roundhouse kick. The 619 isn't something that looks good in a "holy shit I buy THAT knocking someone out" kind of way very often, but Finlay takes it like a fucking man; two shins square in the nose. Finish is screwy, but for a screwy finish that would be pretty hard to nail perfectly, this was nailed pretty much perfectly.

Mysterio/Finlay 09/08/06

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This is another match-up that rarely fails to deliver. This go- around was more one-sided than usual, but it was a pretty awesome display of Finlay roughing up a little dude for just under 15 minutes. The previous week Vicki Guerrero had slapped Rey and sided with Chavo as part of the whole Eddie-sploitation nonsense, so Rey comes into this playing up the idea that his head isn't in the game. Finlay doesn't give two shits and just bullies him, and you get the sense that if he doesn't ditch the baggage then he's going to wake up the next morning with a couple nice bruises. He hits his hope spots and his timing is as impeccable as you'd expect, but this is really all about Finlay coming up with interesting ways to beat him up. He's like Carlos Santana fucking around with a guitar and making magic. Plus he's an amazing shit talker, slapping Rey in the corner; "Some'in the matter, Rey? Some'in the matter?" You never really hear Finlay being pimped as a great in-ring shit talker, but the guy is pretty spectacular at it. Finish is also choice with Rey attempting a springboard only to flub it (they play it up as his mind still being elsewhere enough times that I suspect it was deliberate), Finlay taking advantage and spiking him with the Celtic Cross. Mysterio's such a good opponent for Finlay, because he's not afraid to truly get his ass handed to him. Their matches don't have the same Finlay/Regal or Finlay/Benoit levels of stiffness, but Rey can take a beating like Benoit or Regal, or indeed most guys in wrestling history, can't. It makes for an awesome yet different dynamic, and like Finlay/Regal, it's a match-up I'll never get sick of.

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