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#8,001 ·
Punk/Ryback is definitely up there with some of the worst Cell matches. I'd say it's better than Taker/Kane, Taker/Bossman, and maybe Nash/HHH, but it certainly wasn't a good cell match.

I do think the match is better than a lot of people will make it out to be though for the reasons in my post, but it just felt wrong being in HIAC besides the fact it kept Punk locked in and he could use all the weapons and cheap shots he needed.
 
#8,003 ·
Shit match is shit. Punk played the scared heel fine and Ryback played the dominating monster fine but it was still shit and had no business taking place inside HIAC. None at all. The fact that they climbed it afterwards doesn't change that. Ryback is pretty beastly though. It's kind of fun to watch him fuck shit up but not enough to save the match.
 
#8,004 ·
PPV:

-Orton v Del Rio: Solid stuff. The arm work wasn't terribly interesting but it was all right. Awkward top rope stuff was weird.
-Bryan/Kane v Rhodes/Sandow: The 'no' thing has jumped the shark. Boring as shit tag match. Rhodes' outfit is embarrassing.
-Kingston v Miz: Not particularly good, not particularly bad. I really liked Kofi jumping over the steps and the Miz taking off Kofi's boot and pads and stuff.
-Claudio/Gabriel: I like me some Claudio rough-housing but this didn't feel the same. Gabriel does nothing for me.
-Rey/Cara v NXT guys: Another boring as shit tag match.
-Sheamus v Show: Yeah, this was good shit. Show looked like such a killer and seeing Sheamus work from underneath against a bigger guy was refreshing and really neat. Took them a while to get to the Kick v Punch stuff but when they did they hit home and worked it really smart. The crowd got more and more interested as time went on and the match got better and better. Only real flaw is the shitty looking DDT reversal which they shouldn't have even tried. I can't say "I'd watch this again" about that many WWE matches today but this would one of them.
-Diva 3-Way: Don't make me relive this.
-HIAC: Total bore. Ryback is terrible.

One match show. Sheamus/Show was an island amongst a sea of nothingness.
 
#8,006 ·
Early HIAC Ratingz~!

Orton/Del Rio: ***
Hell No/Rhodes Scholars: **1/2
Kingston/Miz: **1/2
Cesaro/Gabriel: **
PTP/Mysterio & Cara: **
Fella/Show: **** (could go higher, fucking awesome)
Divas: * (you could hear a pin drop during this)
Punk/Ryback: ** (using the cell AFTER the match?)

Show/Fella saved this, although the crowd were the worst WWE have had in a very long time.
 
#8,007 ·
Sheamus vs Show ruled? Nice. Glad it lived up to the interest that I had in it. Really looking forward to checking it out.

The rest...well I'll just have to see how I feel whenever I watch. I wished I could d/l this atm, but being a shoddy XWT member got me removed. At least this wasn't a huge PPV to get spoiled on.
 
#8,009 ·
Hell in a Cell 2012 ; First Take

Orton vs Del Rio : *** 1/4

Good solid opener we had on our hands here. On replay the ending RKO didn't actually look all that impressive so fuck that noise. Del Rio seems to be the king of matches that are good/okay but not classics at all. Where he goes from here is a sight to behold as they already gave him two world titles and a Royal Rumble win. He needs a PPV win, like NOW. Great psychology here for sure as Orton is also a booking disaster waiting to happen.

Team HELL NO vs Team Rhodes Scholars : ***

Another good contest, love the emphasis that Hunter is supposedly imposing on the tag division. The ending makes sense for a go home match at Survivor Series or perhaps a 4 way/3 way elimination match involving two other teams. Bryan steals the show once again, showing why he's a top 3 performer in the world right now for sure. Entertainment all the way from these two, great.

Kofi Kingston vs The Miz :***

NO expectations going into this, so naturally this is a pleasant surprise for me. Two things I loved about the match and one thing I hated should wrap up my thoughts on this match as a whole ; I loved the opening sequence as it was fast, made sense to the story, and AWSUM. I also loved the knee work and the sliding off of the pad by Miz (psychology in a Miz match LOLWUT?). What I hated was that ending sequence, fuck that shit. All of this great limb work and you basically ignore it by having Kofi win with a move like that... FUCK YOU.

Cesaro vs Gabriel : ** 1/2

Really just a showcase for Gabriel to fly around and for Cesaro to show off his impressive moveset. With some decent time, these two could easily pull off a ***+ performance but to condense a guy like Cesaro to such a miniscule amount of time is ridiculous. Cesaro probably has the best looking moveset in the company though, and looks like a future star for sure. I already consider him better than BORRETT and a ton of other heels, hope his stock rises within the company.

PTP vs Reycara : ** 1/4

I literally remember NOTHING about this match already. How sad. All I remember is it being not that entertaining, nobody caring, and Cara's botch. WHY IS REY TEAMING WITH SIN CARA ? Rey should have been the one taking on Cesaro, now THAT has some potential right there. These two teams will probably be involved in an elimination match somehow at the next PPV. Not a bad match at all, just....Nobody cared.

Show vs Fella : *** 3/4

FUCK YEAH. Heavyweight slugfest in this mo' fo' , Sheamus and Show just showed you what a heavyweight formula is supposed to look like. What is up with Big Show and these amazing October performances (let's just look at his track record since 2008 ; vs Undertaker, vs Batista/Rey, vs Henry, vs Sheamus, all *** 1/2+) ..... SERIOUSLY. These two just worked wonders at a great pace for a long fucking time. The near falls were some of the most convincing that I have ever seen, as there were 3 instances where I truly believed the match was over. I'm gonna stop gushing over this great match for now and watch it later, because I REALLY think it's going to **** and into my top 10-15 on the year.

Divas Three Way : N/A (Don't Care)

I actually didn't watch this. Went and made myself a protein shake instead with a pro-bar on the side. That's probably more interesting than this was.

Punk vs Ryback : ***

Liked this more than probably everybody. Thought it ran WAYYY too short than what it should have, and I also think that Ryback isn't ready to be put in this spot yet (mainly because he sucks in the ring). Punk just went out there and made magic happen once again, getting a pretty good match out of Ryback given the circumstances he was placed under. Punk probably hit his best looking elbow EVER tonight as well, as his offense looked better than it ever has. The ending was MEH and I think we could have used another 5 minutes for some better storytelling/false finishes, but I thought this was a good main event (and that Punk has done it AGAIN, this is his Cena/Khali moment IMO).

Overall:

This was a good show for sure. All of the major matches were ***+ , and we got the AWESOME Show-Sheamus match. That's all I'm going to say for now as I'm going to watch it again sometime later. On a first glance, I enjoyed this more than NOC (which had that terrible 4 way opener bah gawd), but I'll know more at a second glance for sure. MOST IMPORTANTLY, I'm excited as to where booking goes from here.

7/10

Random note : My best friend is a big time wrestling fan (he even gets on here from time to time, or he used to lol), and I told him about how in 3 weeks we're gonna go down to the theatre and watch Survivor Series with a few hundred people , and how Ryback hopefully won't be champion... His text back said this : "Ryback...His name is RYBACK... It's like they took Big Vito and gave him Rhyno's gimmick, the dude couldn't even get to *** with Punk and that's saying ALOT, if this guy is the future then count me out of wrestling". I thought it was hilarious.

NO :hhh MAKEZ ME UPZET!
 
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#8,012 ·
RyBerg doesn't belong in the main event yet. God, when will WWE learn the great virtue of patience. It's not like after Austin stopped being the Ringmaster he was wrestling in the main event 6months later (Granted comparing Ryback to Austin is in-fucking-sane,but WWE's trying to make him their next guy). Also this ME solidified the need to stop these gimmick PPVs. They've basically killed all the prestige Taker/HHH put into the Cell earlier this year with that debacle. Bad story and just overall decent (at BEST) match.
 
#8,015 ·
They went 11 minutes in a pretty average Hell In A Cell match. I don't really want to see a rematch between these two either. Maybe they do a big Survivor Series tag in three weeks where Punk takes the pin to Ryback or Cena, Punk finishes up with Cena at TLC, and whoever wins that can turn to The Rock for the Rumble in January.
 
#8,016 · (Edited)
The HIAC main event between Ryback/Punk suffered from so much. The match felt so short, it just kinda ended. Ryback's flaws as a worker really showed tonight, the lack of originality in his offense. Sure he plays an unstoppable monster but I felt no drama at all in the match. It's like they tried to force HBK/Taker Bad Blood into a short time. Punk tried his best to try to get a decent match out of Ryback but there wasn't much there for me to get excited about or want to watch again. Punk's an incredible scared to death heel though, the fear in punk's eyes was awesome. The finish didn't bother me as much as it would some people because the finish was a product of horrendous booking leading up to the match. It's pretty much the only way they could book it keeping punk champ and ryback looking unstoppable, without using a lesnar appearance. **1/2

Now let's get to the MOTN which was Sheamus/Big Show, A great big man brawl is something that is always fun to watch especially when it's implemented well and you have 2 unstoppable forces and you just build the drama in the match. Started off kinda slow, but the finishing stretch had me on the edge of my seat. The brogue kick false finish was amazing. The finish was really creative as well, really made the KO punch look incredibly dangerous and could be hit at any point in the match. The only truly bad part of the match was that horrendous ddt spot, that was ugly. ***3/4 borderline ****

I still have my reservations of Big Show being a world champ in 2012

One final note, can we please get rid of this Gimmick PPV and only have a HIAC match if it's the climax or end all match in a long and hard fought feud. I can't take this you are in a HIAC match with a person you just started feuding with a few weeks ago.
 
#8,018 ·
They went 11 minutes in a pretty average Hell In A Cell match. I don't really want to see a rematch between these two either. Maybe they do a big Survivor Series tag in three weeks where Punk takes the pin to Ryback or Cena, Punk finishes up with Cena at TLC, and whoever wins that can turn to The Rock for the Rumble in January.
11 minutes. Not bad. Could have been worse.
 
#8,019 ·
I would have LOL if they had a main event shorter than 10 minutes! There were no botches in the match and Ryback looked dominant in the match and the action that transpired, but I'm not interested in putting money down to see him destroy fools at the top of the card. Maybe with more time. Creative has to expand on his character (or they should) now that he has his first loss, albeit controversial.
 
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