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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

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Has anyone got any opinions on the "Randy Orton: The Evolution of a Predator" DVD. Its cheap on Silvervision and i like Orton. Is it similar to the Batista set in the way it talks about his life on disc 1?

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I didn't watch the Batista set so I can't comment on that but I enjoyed the Randy Orton set. The documentary involves some kayfabe spots, but otherwise it's very insightful and interesting and Randy really opens up about his demons. It's a good watch. They get comments from Triple H, his wife Samantha, Batista, etc. in the "evolution" of Randy Orton. I'd recommend it for sure.



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I didn't watch the Batista set so I can't comment on that but I enjoyed the Randy Orton set. The documentary involves some kayfabe spots, but otherwise it's very insightful and interesting and Randy really opens up about his demons. It's a good watch. They get comments from Triple H, his wife Samantha, Batista, etc. in the "evolution" of Randy Orton. I'd recommend it for sure.
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Orton's doc is great. I really enjoyed watching it and they go into a lot of heavy shit too. I'm an Orton mark but I think even non-Orton fans would find it interesting.

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

I need to watch the Orton doc. I've seen that it's on netflix. No excuse for me not to.

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Fuck, it happened again. Did I full write up and my computer decided to crash... Fuck it, here are the STARZZZ !

Triple H PPV Matches : WM 23-WM 24

SS 07 vs King Booker- : ** 1/4
Unf 07 vs Carlito- : ** 1/4
No Mercy 07 vs Randy Orton : ** 3/4
NM 07 vs Umaga : ** 1/2
NM 07 vs Randy Orton : **** 1/4
CS 07 vs Umaga- : *** 3/4
SS 07 Elimination Tag- : ** 3/4
ARM 07 vs Jeff Hardy : *** 3/4
NWO 08 Elimination Chamber : **** 1/4
WM 24 vs John Cena vs Randy Orton : *** 1/2

Run these down fairly quickly... Both the SS 07 and UNF 07 matches seemed a little uninspired, but I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for them, as they feature flashes of typical Trips intensity from time to time. They certainly aren't BAD matches like many people claim them to be. They were exactly what they needed to be ; Matches to help Trips get back in his groove again. They were decent enough , but they aren't great matches at all.

The No Mercy series was insanely fun (If you're a Trips fan that is ). The opener against Orton was a VERY hot match and Trips winning with the roll up made alot of sense as it looks like Trips has CAUGHT Orton, instead of decisively beating him. Just a hot opener in every sense of the word with some crisp wrestling as well. The Umaga match was a short, Raw main event type match with a simple story and some good psychology, definitely average..I personally LOVE the match, but it's average. The LMS is fucking awesome, but it isn't even the best LMS of the year. A classic in every sense of the word ; The intensity is off the charts, the psychology and storytelling are both there, and there are some legitimately awesome spots in it that nicely wrap it up.

Nobody talks about the awesome Streetfight between Trips and Umaga..EVER. These two beat the fuck out of each other for 18 minutes straight with some great spots and some good action. There was a severe lack of drama that held the match back, but this was an underrated Streetfight between a highly underrated worker, and one of the best gimmick match workers of all time. Highly recommended, as it's a near classic from Trips that again.. NOBODY talks about.

The Survivor Series tag was GOOD, but definitely not GREAT. Rey was awesome as always, and Trips did a really good job of making the other team atleast look a little credible, but there was little to no drama in this one. The wrestling was good and it was cool to see Hunter duke it out with the likes of Finlay and others, but there was just something missing here that I'm not sure what it is. Definitely worth checking out, but nothing special at all.

Armageddon 07 match vs Jeff was fucking awesome for what it was, because personally I can't stand Jeff whatsoever. This is IMO Jeff's 3rd best singles match (we'll get to number one later on ) because it tells a better story than any of his matches ever did. He needs to stop being Hunter's friend and FIGHT, and once Jeff unleashes his inner beast this match becomes absolutely awesome. This match features one of the most intense slaps I've ever seen, as it seemed like a very stiff match between two supposed friends. The surprise ending is nice because Jeff wasn't ready to get a fully fledged victory of HHH at that point in his career. Nobody helped Jeff get to where he was more than Hunter, NOBODY.

The Raw 08 Elimination Chamber is a top 5 EC of all time IMO, and right now only 3rd to NYR 05 and SS 02 in my book (still have plenty to rewatch). This was as star studded as you could get, as you had various fantastic layers of story added into the match, along with some killer spots/fantastic action, great psychology between some awesome workers, legit excitement, and of course the ending is fantastic as well with some breathtaking near falls. Trips performance is very solid but the MVP in my book would either have to go to Jericho or Michaels. Just an awesome match, a classic performance by all 6 men.

The WM 24 match was much better to me the last time I saw it. Don't get me wrong ; It's a great match with a great shock ending that gets people talking, but it just seems like there's something missing and I have no clue what it is. The pacing was off a little bit, but they compensated with some hard hitting moves, exciting moments, and perfectly executed spots. What we got was a Wrestlemania worthy title match that could have been so much better, but wasn't bad for what it was. Off to watch up to WM XXV now, wish me luck





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I need to watch the Orton doc. I've seen that it's on netflix. No excuse for me not to.

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Punk/Bryan - ****1/2
Primo/Epico vs PTP - **3/4
Raw MITB - **3/4
Punk/Show (Raw last night) - ***

Umaga/Cena (Royal Rumble) - STILL FIVE STARS~!
Yeah, Punk/Show was kind of out of nowhere. I was gonna skip it but I had a feeling that the match would be the setup for pipebomb #2 so I watched it. Even though it wasn't, I only realised at the end that it was actually pretty awesome. Agree with *** for it.

Speaking of the Royal Rumble, what's everyone's all time favourite matches from the PPV?

Edge v Ziggler is THE ONE for me. Edge/Michaels, HHH/Foley, Cena/Umaga are also up there. The Hardys/Dudleys table match deserves a shout too I suppose, but I don't like it as much as the previous ones mentioned.
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The WM 24 match was much better to me the last time I saw it. Don't get me wrong ; It's a great match with a great shock ending that gets people talking, but it just seems like there's something missing and I have no clue what it is. The pacing was off a little bit, but they compensated with some hard hitting moves, exciting moments, and perfectly executed spots. What we got was a Wrestlemania worthy title match that could have been so much better, but wasn't bad for what it was. Off to watch up to WM XXV now, wish me luck
I agree, it's a good match but something always seemed off about that match to me. I think their 2009 triple threat was better, although I don't recall too well.



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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

I would say Cena/Umaga for me but Benoit/Jericho from '01 is close behind.

And KOK, the Raw '08 Chamber is my favorite of all time. Thought everything just went so well.



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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

OH, Benoit/Jericho. I completely forgot. That one would be my joint favourite, then.


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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Rumble PPV matches:

HBK vs Taker - 1998
Rock vs Mankind - 1999
Hardys vs Dudleys - 2000
HHH vs Foley - 2000
Jericho vs Benoit -2001
Angle vs Benoit - 2003
HBK vs HHH - 2004
Cena vs Umaga - 2007
Hardys vs MNM - 2007
Edge vs Hardy - 2009


Honorable mention for Edge vs Ziggler in 2011 & Jericho vs Rock in 2002.


I think the main problem for Rumble PPV matches is that most of the talent is in the rumble match itself and most of the other matches on the card are then handicapped by time restrictions.

With a few exceptions, this means that it's usually only the title matches on the card which have enough time to develop into top quality matches.

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Favourite Rumble stuff:

1. HHH v Steiner 03

the rest which obv does not compare to my glorious #1:

Rockers v Orients 91
Duggan/Harts v Rougeuas/Dino 89 (seriously nobody talks about this)
Owen/Anvil v Orients 92
Trip v Jack 00
Rude v Steamboat 88
The "Hey This is Actually a Really Good WWF Women's Tag" 88
Cena v Umaga 07
MNM v Hardys 07
Rock v Jericho 02
Benoit v Angle 03
Razor v Jarrett 95
Hart v Diesel 95
Quebecers v Bret & Owen 94
Hart v Taker 96
Benoit v Jericho 01

Some of that stuff I haven't seen in like three years, but I liked all of it quite a bit.

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