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Old 07-14-2012, 03:57 PM   #3931 (permalink)
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Yeah, I remember the JD01 match being awesome and is why Im not sure if I'd put the FL99 match as the best Taker/Austin match. Will have to wait and see.
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Old 07-14-2012, 04:00 PM   #3932 (permalink)
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Yeah, I remember the JD01 match being awesome and is why Im not sure if I'd put the FL99 match as the best Taker/Austin match. Will have to wait and see.
I would put FL99 above JD 01 only because it was the "End of an Era".
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I just finished watching the Boss Man/Taker HIAC match and like Obis said, it did make me cry but not because it made me sad... because I was laughing my ass off hard. Really, everything about this match is so goofy. From some guy in the crowd standing up and blocking the camera's view on Taker/Boss Man, to the ending, to Michael Cole's over-the-top commentary and the match being so damn boring that the main camera was changed to the one from way up in the arena in the middle of the match when Taker and Boss Man were trading punches.
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Old 07-14-2012, 04:43 PM   #3934 (permalink)
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I would put FL99 above JD 01 only because it was the "End of an Era".
I recently bought FL'99 and saw that era tag and had to smile in relation to WM!!
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Yeah,it's weird that Taker was in 2 "End of an Era" matches.
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Well rewatched Summerslam 2001 today and there isn't a bad match on there. They range from decent to great and is really worth the watch if you haven't already. Not as good as '00 and I haven't seen '02 yet so can't comment, but still a damn good SS.
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How exactly was the 2000 version better? Sure, the product was hotter and had a more artistically pleasing main event love triangle, but it's not as consistent in the ring.
Did you watch 2000?

1999 had guys like Billy Gunn and Val Venis, with some goodness in Shamrock. And of course a good selection of ME talent, with a laughable tag division

2000 had guys like the Radicalz, Angle, Jericho, and a tag division with the Hardyz, E&C, etc.
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Does everyone remember the clusterfuck that was the build up too Summerslam 2000 which was leading obviously to team Shane Angle, Show, Beniot Vs team Rock, taker and Kane but Show who just came back fucked up again got injured demoted to OVW and they had to hogwash the Stephanie Angle storyline which they spent a year building from even the smallest backstage skit and had to run it through in 3 weeks. But look at all the awesome matches we got because they ditched the whole conspiracy team Blackman Vs Shane, Jericho Vs Beniot 2 out of 3 falls, TLC ladder match (E@C were apart of team Shane), Angle,Triple H and The Rock.
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How exactly was the 2000 version better? Sure, the product was hotter and had a more artistically pleasing main event love triangle, but it's not as consistent in the ring.
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Hunter/Foley Royal Rumble 2000 alone is better than anything 1999 as a whole has to offer from an in ring standpoint.

Hunter/Foley NWO whilst not a GREAT Cell match, is still a lot better than you'd get from 1999.

Rock/HHH Backlash and Judgement Day 2000 were again far superior to anything Austin/Rock, Taker/Austin, Mankind/Rock could offer.

HHH/Jericho Fully Loaded LMS match is again on a whole different level to what 1999 produced.

Rock/Benoit whilst let down by the overbooked finish, was again far better than what Rock produced in his feuds in 1999.

HHH/Taka from Smackdown is a better TV match than I ever recall seeing from 1999 WWF.

The Too Cool/Angle & Edge/Christian 6 man from Judgement Day is fun as fuck and again, better than any 1999 opener I can recall.

The Dallas 10 man tag from February featuring HHH and the Radicalz v Foley, Rock & Too Cool is one of Raw's greatest matches, just an insanely great match/segment with an all time great crowd.

I'm not huge on Benoit/Jericho as a series (compared to others), but their series was better than any IC title match I recall from 1999.

Bear in mind I also ommitted the Dudleys/Hardys Table match from Royal Rumble, the Triangle Ladder match from Wrestlemania 16 and TLC 1 from Summerslam. All generally well received even if I have a pretty low opinion on the actual matches myself.

September-December of 2000 tbh is where the year gets weaker from an in ring standpoint, Angle/Rock No Mercy gets a ton of love but its been too long since I last watched it. Unforgiven and Survivor Series are largely weak, and Armageddon is equally disappointing (some love the 6 man HIAC but I'm no fan of it, more of a clusterfuck IMO).

But yeah, despite a weak period from September-December, the first 8 months of 2000 alone blow 1999 out of the water, christ January-May is in another league of its own in terms of match quality. Slowly but surely matches became more about the character performances, structure and story within a match rather than overbooked brawls (and even the overbooked brawls such as HHH/Rock Backlash was booked and executed more like Austin/Dude Love OTE 1998 than some of the poor 1999 brawls).

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He was talking about SummerSlam 2000, not the year in general I does believe . And I agree with him, 2001 SS > 2000 SS .
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