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Old 07-12-2012, 11:43 AM   #3861 (permalink)
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Probably my favorite promo of his since he's been back along with the return promo of course. Then history lesson and Survivor Series.
Ya know, it literally blows my mind how WWE fumbled the feud from the beginning. It should've written itself; the two biggest stars of their respective eras clashing at Wrestlemania.

It should've been a simple case of both men wanting to prove they were the better man and that their era was greater. Pure ego, and nothing else. Instead, we got the same hot garbage every week with just a few glimmers of goodness.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:00 PM   #3862 (permalink)
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I agree whoever did the writing for the feud dropped the ball on the build but they hyped the hell out of the match for a year and it was successful in regards to the actual show.
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I agree whoever did the writing for the feud dropped the ball on the build but they hyped the hell out of the match for a year and it was successful in regards to the actual show.
It was Stephanie McMahon who wanted to create a situation like Twilight where fans had to choose between Team Bring It and the CeNation and the only real bit of ammo that John Cena had on The Rock was the fact that he had been out of WWE for nearly seven years. Cena really could attack The Rock on anything else for the most part. So you can blame Stephanie for that just like you can blame her and Vince for pretty much every problem that WWE has today is their fault more then anybody else.
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You know, I even wonder if it was all just the writers. I sense that Rock and Cena had a hand in this themselves, too.
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It was Stephanie McMahon who wanted to create a situation like Twilight where fans had to choose between Team Bring It and the CeNation and the only real bit of ammo that John Cena had on The Rock was the fact that he had been out of WWE for nearly seven years. Cena really could attack The Rock on anything else for the most part. So you can blame Stephanie for that just like you can blame her and Vince for pretty much every problem that WWE has today is their fault more then anybody else.
Whats the source for this? Observer didnt report anything like this.

Besides, Team Bring it vs CeNation was bound to happen since it was face vs face feud. Cena wasnt going to be a heel against the rock even though he was booed.

To me it seemed like it was more Cena himself, than the writers. I mean writers told him to say that Rock had his promos written in the wrist on Live tv?
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To me it seemed like it was more Cena himself, than the writers. I mean writers told him to say that Rock had his promos written in the wrist on Live tv?
It wouldn't surprise me if they did. Everything thing about this feud from Cena's direct shots on the mic to how WWE subtly crafted Rock's image as a Hollywood outsider was their way of making Cena the de facto face in the feud from a booking standpoint. WWE built no importance to Rock's return at Survivor Series or his rich history as a WWE legend returning to the company. The reactions from the fans weren’t going to be completely swayed though.
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I mean writers told him to say that Rock had his promos written in the wrist on Live tv?
You don't actually believe that was a shoot? It's The Rock. He could go out and do a 20 minute promo with his eyes closed. Rock's done ALOT of promos and he's never went to the ring with promo notes wrote on his wrist. It was a plan to get some fans on Cena's side.

Rock during that promo was trying to make the notes noticeable on camera. From stopping mid way and having a drink to him showing his hand to the camera. The whole promo was for Cena to get one over on Rock. The whole promo was set up for that one line.

The fans didn't fall for the notes on wrist at all. Cena tried making fun of it the next week and the fans didn't react and it was dropped.
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:25 PM   #3868 (permalink)
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It wouldn't surprise me if they did. Everything thing about this feud from Cena's direct shots on the mic to how WWE subtly crafted Rock's image as a Hollywood outsider was their way of making Cena the de facto face in the feud from a booking standpoint.
They did try to keep him over as a face, but I highly doubt they had him talk about Rock's promos written in his wrist on Live RAW.

And the Rock in response went personal and talked about Cena's wife during the Rock concert, which I also doubt was scripted by writers.

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Not true at all. They even promoted his first match in WWE at MSG 1996.
Video package at the start says it all..




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You don't actually believe that was a shoot? It's The Rock. He could go out and do a 20 minute promo with his eyes closed. Rock's done ALOT of promos and he's never went to the ring with promo notes wrote on his wrist. It was a plan to get some fans on Cena's side.

Rock during that promo was trying to make the notes noticeable on camera. From stopping mid way and having a drink to him showing his hand to the camera. The whole promo was for Cena to get one over on Rock. The whole promo was set up for that one line.

The fans didn't fall for the notes on wrist at all. Cena tried making fun of it the next week and the fans didn't react and it was dropped.
Eh.. Not too sure about that. Rock did have notes written on his wrist and his promos at the time were largely about twitter trends, juvenile jokes and quite dragging. It wasnt the Rock of his prime that would rip his opponent apart on the mic.

I believe that line was a shoot but I guess we will never know for sure.
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Not true at all. They even promoted his first match in WWE at MSG 1996.
Video package at the start says it all..
Maybe we have different standards for big build but the build The Rock's return to Survivor Series didn't feel important to me, sorry.
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Considering we were having about 10 Rock/Cena threads a week on how many people wanting to see it and now people are slating it, shows how much they dropped they ball. Everything about the feud was ugly.
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