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Old 07-08-2012, 07:37 AM   #3691 (permalink)
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My ratings for Hunter's matches in 2004:

- Royal Rumble (Michaels) ~ ***
- WrestleMania XX (Michaels/Benoit) ~ *****
- Backlash (Michaels-Benoit) ~ **** 1/4
- Bad Blood (Michaels) ~ *** 3/4
- Vengeance (Benoit) ~ ** 3/4
- SummerSlam (Eugene) ~ *** 1/2
- Unforgiven (Orton) ~ *** 1/4
- Taboo Tuesday (Michaels) ~ ***
- Survivor Series (8-men Tag Team match) ~ **** 1/4

Apart from these, there are countless TV matches at the range of three and half and four stars. The Iron Man match against Benoit is at *** 1/2 for me and the first match against Benjamin is *** 3/4. The Triple Threat against Edge and Benoit is also at *** 3/4, but that match had more to do with Edge and Benoit than Hunter. In terms of matches, 2004 was really awesome for Triple H.


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I think I've said this already, but I've been watching some 00-02 Angle recently, and I've liked some of it, but there's a lot of it that just isn't for me. Still, he looked like a guy who just wasn't experienced enough, and that he'd piece things more together in the future. Some people say he DID get better later on, but that just really isn't for me in the slightest. Unfortunately for me 00-01 was the peak of his career.
I'd suppose so. I loved his character in 2000, although his matches weren't all that great. For me, 2000 - 2002 would be Angle's peak as a wrestler. From there, he decided that he was the greatest of all time and it just fucked his matches.
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:19 AM   #3692 (permalink)
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HHH 04 PPV Ratings:

- Royal Rumble (Michaels) ~ ***
- WrestleMania XX (Michaels/Benoit) ~ ****3/4
- Backlash (Michaels-Benoit) ~ ****
- Bad Blood (Michaels) ~ ***
- Vengeance (Benoit) ~ ***
- SummerSlam (Eugene) ~ ***
- Unforgiven (Orton) ~ **
- Taboo Tuesday (Michaels) ~ **1/4 (haven't seen it in years though, I just remember HBK being legit injured at the time)
- Survivor Series (8-men Tag Team match) ~ Uhhh... who was in this? Genuinely don't remember it at all
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Cal, what stops you rating the Mania Triple threat *****? Just curious seeing as it's one of my favourite matches of all time for one reason or another?
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Nothing in particular that I can really mention, I just didn't feel it as being ***** on last watch (or any watch).
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Looking through my collection of DVDs, I just realised I don't have a Ric Flair DVD at all, which should be considered a crime for any wrestling DVD collector, IMO. Any recommendations on which to get?
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Ultimate Ric Flair collection.
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Triple H in '04:

vs HBK - RR - ***3/4
vs Benoit/HBK - WM - *****
vs Benoit/HBK - Backlash - ****1/2
vs HBK - Bad Blood - ***
vs Benoit - Vengeance - ***3/4
vs Eugene - Summerslam - ***1/4
vs Orton - Unforgiven - ***
vs HBK - Taboo Tues - **3/4
vs Team Orton - ****1/4
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Money In The Bank 2011

SmackDown MITB Ladder Match - ****1/4
Kelly Kelly v Brie Bella - *1/2
Mark Henry v Big Show - **1/2
Raw MITB Ladder Match - ***3/4
Christian v Orton - ***1/2
CM Punk v John Cena - *****

One of the best events of all time.

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Ok, so I went ahead after posting last night (which was actually just really early in the morning ) and watched all of Taker's 1998 PPV matches when I got up.

My Undertaker 1998 PPV Ratings:

vs. HBK Casket Match RR- ****
Taker/HBK Casket Match... probably the best casket match ever. The match overall was great, though the crowd didn't seem extremely into it. I mean they reacted for Taker's offense whenever he got a move in, but then they would go to near silence again. The pacing was up and down, though kept a slower pace for most of the match. DX's involvement was great. I don't really know the whole storyline to well though so maybe someone can explain to me what reason all those guys had for attacking Taker? Were they paid by DX? Did they just not want to have Taker as champion because... well... he's the fucking Undertaker? Regardless in the end they were just foil with Kane, and that moved the Kane/Taker storyline very well, and gave Taker a reason to finally fight his borhter. Like I said, overall it was a great match, and also has the infamous spot which nearly ended Michaels career. Oh, I also love the spot where HBK tries to escape from the casket and Taker is pulling him back in. Classic.

vs. Kane WM14- ****
Taker/Kane WM14 is awesome. First off the whole Taker/Kane storyline to this match is probably the best storyline by WWE ever written. The match for the majority was Taker getting demolished by Kane... getting in shots here and there but never being able to mount an effective offense until the very end. Kane having Taker beat with the chokeslam but then pulling his shoulder off the mat was a great way to show the hate Kane has for Taker and how much he wants to destroy him. The diving clothesline into the table is such a classic spot. Finally Kane kicking out of 2 tombstones is crazy. Besides Michaels at WM26, can't think of any other time 3 tombstones were needed to put Taker's opponent away. The two engaged in an awesome clash that is their best match ever imo. Oh, and Bearer was awesome in this as well.

vs. Kane Inferno match Unforgiven- ***
The inferno match between Taker and Kane was good and probably the best inferno match... which isn't saying much, but still. Kane dominates much like in the WM match, though Taker in this one seems to go more pound for pound with Kane. When Taker does old school and the flames rise to cover the ring, that always looks fucking sick! I feel the match drags on a bit and I didn't enjoy watching this back as much as the Mania match, but it still was a good watch.

vs. Mankind HIAC KOTR- ****
Taker/Mankind HIAC... everyone knows this match is insane. I can't even rate it like other matches. This was just a brutal contest that showed the cell being taken to it's limits. Mankind... poor Mankind. Thrown off the cell, thrown through the cell (which was actually not supposed to happen), slammed into thumbtacks and chokeslammed into thumbtacks, and then finally being tombstoned for the 1-2-3. The match is legendary. Even though there are other cell matches that are better, none felt as brutal as this.

w/Austin vs. Kane/Mankind- ***
The fully loaded tag match wasn't all that great and was pretty boring to me for the first half, though the second half was better. Austin trying to tag Taker in but Taker not reaching in was great and not only played into the conflict between Taker and Austin, but also was good to hint at Taker and Kane being in cahoots. This was a filler match to build up the highway to hell and set the stage for the biggest Summerslam main event in history.

vs. Austin SS- ***1/2
Taker/Austin SS98 was a very good match, though didn't really live up to the expectations considering it was Taker vs. Austin in MSG. It felt like a WM main event but didn't deliver as such. I mean the match wasn't bad, but the bump early on in the match I think hurt the match quite a bit. Taker and Austin don't have the greatest in ring chemistry, but they've had better matches. Still it's a very good match, but didn't live up to the hype. I still enjoy the match a lot though.

vs. Austin vs. Kane Breakdown- ***1/2
Taker vs. Kane vs. Austin... Taker and Kane couldn't pin each other. Hell, they spent most the match dominating Austin together after the first 5 minutes. This was a fight for survival for Austin. He knew he couldn't take on both of them, and tried to fix that problem early, but couldn't keep it up. They just dominate Austin until they turn on each other when the greed of the WWE Title comes into this. I love the storytelling and psychology in this match, and watching Austin get decimated is strangely satisfying. The end where Taker and Kane pin Austin was a great way to have everyone save face, and get the title off of Austin for McMahon. I might be rating it higher than I should, but I feel everything worked well here.

vs. Kane JD- ***1/2
Taker/Kane JD felt like a completely different match from the previous two PPV matches. First off the whole Austin dynamic was interesting. I love how he let the two monsters do what they wanted, and hell, there's even an awesome spot where he tries to give a cable to Taker. lol. But besides that, this match was these two throwing bombs, with some nice leg work by Taker to Kane. The twist at the end is Bearer turns on Kane, Taker turns on Kane and goes heel, and Austin ends up counting both men's shoulders to the mat. But I actually really enjoyed this match. Yeah the crowd went dead for the mid part of it (fuck them ), but it was still a fun watch for me.

vs. Kane SVS- **1/4
Taker/Kane's worst match on PPV in 98 was definitely their SVS match imo, which wasn't really all that bad, but it felt like an incomplete match... especially after watching longer matches between them already just today. The match overall was just "eh" and it didn't help that this was like the billionth time that year Taker and Kane wrestled each other. Not bad but not good either.

vs. Rock SVS- **1/2
Taker pulls double duty against Rock, and it's bit better than Taker/Kane. I've always thought Taker and Rock had some good chemistry, and you'll be seeing that written from me a lot more when I get to their better PPV matches. Still it's overall a solid match, though I don't like the ending as it makes Taker look like an idiot just tossing Rock into Kane and letting Kane chokeslam the Rock with the ref obviously watching. Still a nice little match between a pairing we don't always see.

vs. Austin Rock Bottom- **1/2
Taker/Austin Buried Alive... meh, didn't enjoy it in the slightest. I mean I guess it was a nice buried alive match. Nice brawl between the two and Kane ultimately being the one responsible for Taker getting buried is a decent touch since he still hadn't gotten revenge on Taker for JD and SVS. But this match was really difficult to sit through for me.


So yeah, that's 1998 Undertaker. Overall I'd say a great year. His last 3 PPV matches bring it down as a whole, but he still has three **** matches, as well as several matches in the ***-***1/2 range. Also outside of his in ring work he had some good/memorable promos, had an epic feud with Austin leading to Summerslam, an epic storyline with Kane, and was the second biggest star of the year. The HIAC match with Mankind is legendary, and his casket match and inferno match are the two best matches of those match types. Overall a great year for Taker. Here are the snowflakes again:

vs. HBK RR- ****
vs. Kane WM14- ****
vs. Kane Unforgiven- ***
vs. Mankind KOTR- ****
w/Austin vs. Kane/Mankind- ***
vs. Austin SS- ***1/2
vs. Austin vs. Kane Breakdown- ***1/2
vs. Kane JD- ***1/2
vs. Kane SVS- **1/4
vs. Rock SVS- **1/2
vs. Austin Rock Bottom- **1/2

Looking to 1999... not looking forward to watching that bossman match. The Shamrock match I'm not sure if I've ever seen before. The Over the Edge Austin match I actually just watched recently and will watch it again, but it was nothing spectacular. The Rock match at KOTR is always a fun match for me to watch. The FL First Blood with Austin was one of the better Taker/Austin matches from what I remember so I look forward to that. Finally the tag title SS match I look forward to watching as I remember it being a good one, but not entirely sure. Character wise 1999 may be Taker's best... at least for the first half of it, and same maybe for mic work. But yeah, I'll start watching them later tonight and going into tomorrow. At least the Bossman match is less than 10 minutes I think.
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