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Old 07-05-2012, 10:26 PM   #3611 (permalink)
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Okay, so I'm at KOTR 2002 in my Triple H PPV match project, and I know that going into this match that I'm not expecting much (I had it at like ** 1/4 when I watched it a few years ago), but FUCK the pre match buildup video was one of the best that I've EVER seen.

I think my favourite version of the Undertaker was at this point in his career, from the Flair feud right up until he turned face after Vengeance 2002. He was fucking AMAZING, one of the true monster heels of our time. he was a legit powerhouse that used to destroy everything in his path, his quote in the pre match video package says it all "Triple H, there's blood in the water, and I am the great white shark". he was just such a cool heel at this point in his career, anybody else notice how awesome he was (character wise, not so sure working-wise) around this time ? Heard some mixed reviews from the Insurexxtion match also, but I'm sure I'll enjoy it, I mean it's HHH and Undertaker
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:02 PM   #3612 (permalink)
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What did you think of HHH/Angle from No Way Out? I watched it recently and thought Trip put about as good a babyface showing as I've seen from him. I didn't think the match was anything special, but with an opponent I actually give a shit about () it might have been.

EDIT- been watching some 2001 Angle.....yeah, not my thing. I'd say that was probably his peak and I don't think he was great. Some of it is actually pretty bad or really boring.
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Triple H PPV Match Ratings : 2000 (part two)

FL 00 vs Chris Jericho- : *****
Summerslam 00 vs Rock vs Kurt Angle : ***
Unforgiven 00 vs Kurt Angle- : *** 1/2
No Mercy 00 vs Chris Benoit- : **** 1/4
Survivor Series 00 vs Steve Austin : ***
Armageddon 00 6 man HIAC : ****

I've already come out and said yesterday that the Fully Loaded match with Jericho is one of my favourite matches of all time, and IMO it's one of the greatest matches (top 10-20) in WWF/WWE history. The psychology, the storytelling, the brutality and the sheer way that everything just seemed to CLICK on one particular night was fantastic. One of the greatest gimmick matches EVER. You want more thoughts on how awesome it is, just go back a few pages, amazing.

I've already reviewed the Summerslam match as well, and my thoughts on it are the same after I've watched it for probably the 10th time ; It's pretty good, but one of the most overrated matches of all time IMO. I've seen people give this match like **** 1/4 and I just don't see it here. It's like a more exciting version of Hunter-Rock from OTE 99 with Kurt Angle thrown into the mix doing some pretty ridiculous shit as well. I had FUN watching it and like I said, it's pretty good, but Rock marks seem to fucking LOVE this match and I have no idea why.

The Unforgiven match with Angle I thought had some fantastic ribwork and psychology with a half decent pace. They told a pretty consistent story throughout with the whole "ZOMG STEPHANIE" thing that really didn't work out in the end anyways for Hunter, but it does in this match however. This match had it's Angle spots, but it also had enough 2000 HHH goodness for my liking and Hunter was a borderline tweener at this point. I thought Hunter did a FANTASTIC job at getting Angle to wrestle HIS style of match and not go out of HHH's element, which is something that only a more powerful person than Angle can do (See; Stone Cold, Steve Austin).

The No Mercy match was a fucking classic although I've seen some people give it **** 3/4 which is actually insane (COUGH Brett Mix, COUGH). The idea of the match is simple ; Benoit wrestles like Hunter in the sense that he picks a body part and just goes at it, and Hunter wrestles like Benoit in the sense that he is just technically grinding it out on the mat out-wrestling Benoit. Perhaps it's Hunter's finest PURE WRESTLING match, as I loved every single second of this one. I can DEFINITELY see why some people wouldn't like this, but it's HHH in 2000 putting on a wrestling clinic as a fan favourite over an intense Benoit.

The Survivor Series match wasn't a wrestling match so I didn't rate it as one. It was just one huge brawl all over the arena that didn't really have any direction but I'll be DAMNED if I wasn't entertained ! I bumped this down about a half a star because of the fucking ridiculous ending, but this match I feel exemplifies the reckless style of SCSA that you can either love or hate. Definitely not their best match together, and yet again I can see why people would hate it, but it's just a fun brawl and not much else.

I've already reviewed the HIAC and my thoughts stay the same ; It's a near classic with some great brawling, some big names, a big fight atmosphere, some crazy spots, and it has a typical attitude era style. Just the fact that these 5 superstars (minus Rikishi) are facing off against one another makes this match great. HHH wasn't a focal point of this at all, but I thought it was cool to end off one of the greatest years by a performer in wrestling history, with ANOTHER **** match.

Yeah1993, I watched the NWO match with Angle as well as the RR01 match with Angle today (damn I've been watching alot of matches today), and I can tell you that while I have the RR01 match rated slightly higher, Hunter's performance is far better in the NWO match. You can really feel in that match that he NEEDS to win, and I think it's the first time that he really hammers down how to draw the sympathy from the fans with his facial expressions. When you watch the match you're like "how the FUCK will HHH get out of this one ?", and although Angle does some of his typical bullshit (running up the turnbuckle like he's spiderman), the match was pretty great at *** 1/4. I don't think Angle and Hunter ever wrestled a CLASSIC one on one match, but they always put on some good performances as like I said before, A person with power in the locker room can force Angle to give up his bullshit for the most part.
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I've never seen that No Mercy '00 match before. Gonna need to give it a look.

The LMS with Jericho, fucking epic.
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Yeah1993, I watched the NWO match with Angle as well as the RR01 match with Angle today (damn I've been watching alot of matches today), and I can tell you that while I have the RR01 match rated slightly higher, Hunter's performance is far better in the NWO match. You can really feel in that match that he NEEDS to win, and I think it's the first time that he really hammers down how to draw the sympathy from the fans with his facial expressions. When you watch the match you're like "how the FUCK will HHH get out of this one ?", and although Angle does some of his typical bullshit (running up the turnbuckle like he's spiderman), the match was pretty great at *** 1/4. I don't think Angle and Hunter ever wrestled a CLASSIC one on one match, but they always put on some good performances as like I said before, A person with power in the locker room can force Angle to give up his bullshit for the most part.
I was actually suprised at how good Hunter looked as the Against the World wrestler, for lack of a better term. Kind of wish he just stayed the babyface the whole year, but I've never really dug the Jericho feud. Angle match was definitely the best he looked from his shitty 02-03 period.


The SummerSlam three-way is whatever, but there's a another three-way with the same three guys from the 6/26 Raw or SmackDown (IDR which) that people really, really need to see. Blows the PPV one out of the water.
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I'm liking these reviews, KingofKings.

I'll do my ratings for Hunter's matches in 2001:

- Royal Rumble (Angle) ~ *** 3/4
- No Way Out (Austin) ~ *****
- WrestleMania X-Seven ('Taker) ~ *** 1/2
- Backlash (w/Austin vs. 'Taker and Kane) ~ ** 3/4
- Judgment Day (Kane) ~ *** 1/4

Of course, the match where he tore his quad--ordinarily, it's **** 1/2 for me, but due to Hunter's bravado performance, I have it at **** 3/4.
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K1ngofK1ngs' reviews have been excellent so far.
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HHH 2001 PPV Ratings:

Vs Angle RR - ***1/2 (used to have this at ****1/4)
Vs Austin NWO - ***1/4 (used to have this at ****3/4 lol)
Vs Undertaker WM - **** (used to have this at ****1/4)
w/Austin Vs Undertaker & Kane BL - ****1/4 (imo THE underrated match of the year and probably the most underrated tag match ever. Excellent storytelling with Kane's injured arm being the focal point. Ending was a little clusterfucky though)
Vs Kane JD - ***1/4

and then **** for the tag where he injured his quad.
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Know other details have been posted already but heres the synopsis and cover art for Rock/Cena Feud DVD

In the week leading up to WrestleMania XXVIII, a one-hour documentary aired on NBC Universal in America called ‘Once In A Lifetime: The Rock vs. John Cena’. This DVD collection is an expanded version of that documentary – giving the full one-year story of the build up to this epic match – from the very first promo. It also gives an insight into the preparation of body and mind that these two competitors went through before they met in the ring on April 1 in Miami. Once in A Lifetime explores the iconic Superstars long, emotional paths toward their match, and gives viewers a glimpse into The Rock and John Cena’s daily lives, training regiments, and the personal choices and histories that led them to the defining moment of their careers.

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