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Old 07-04-2012, 08:47 AM   #3581 (permalink)
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I was browsing some WCW videos on EBay and came across this:

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If someone buys that for that they should be sent a straight-jacket along with regardless of how 'rare' the tape is...
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Triple H PPV Matches : 2000 (part one)

RR 00 vs Cactus Jack : *****
NWO 00 vs Cactus Jack : **** 1/2
WM 2000 vs Big Show vs Mick Foley vs The Rock- : ****
Backlash 00 vs The Rock : **** 1/4
Judgment Day 00 vs The Rock- : **** 1/2
INX 2000 vs Shane Mcmahon vs The Rock : ** 3/4
KOTR 00 w Mcmahons vs Rock/Taker/Kane : ** 1/4

First of all, let's talk about the two Foley matches. The Street fight at the rumble was one of the greatest matches of all time, period. There isn't much to say about it that hasn't already been said, as I believe that this COULD be Triple H's AND Foley's best match, and also the greatest street fight of all time. It was brutal, the atmosphere was electric, and the storytelling and psychology were as deep as any other match that I've ever seen. Couple that with the fact that the match was extremely intense and technically sound and you have a recipe for not just my MOTY for 2000, but one of the greatest matches EVER. The HIAC with Foley was awesome as well, and an all time classic in it's own right. The only problems it really has is that it isn't as good as the first encounter in 2000 between the two (think of it like Punk-Cena at MITB and SS). The storytelling was awesome, the brutality was off the charts, and once again Hunter bumped around the ring like a madman for Foley, making him look amazing in his "retirement match".

The Wrestlemania match is met with alot of criticism for being too overbooked, too sloppy, and unnecessary because it SHOULD have just been HHH vs The Rock like we got at Backlash. I personally LOVE the four way elimination match, as a HUGE chunk of it was just Rock vs HHH anyways, with Show not being in it for long, and Foley being rewarded with a main event slot for his work in the past. I thought it was a perfect example of an out of control match that spills all over the place and is full of mayhem. When I did my rankings of every Wrestlemania main event in history, This match came in at number 10 because I feel that alot of people don't rate this for what it is, and mainly rate it unjustly because they feel the main event of Wrestlemania shouldn't be so overbooked. I loved it, and the surprise of HHH winning made it THAT much better for me.

The two Rock singles matches are fucking awesome as well. The Backlash match between the two is awesome, with Rock putting on one of his best performances that I've ever seen. The back and forth action between the two coupled with the big fight atmosphere and good psychology made this one an instant classic. This is just as good if not BETTER than the HHH/Austin match from a few months prior that used a similar attitude era formula, except this one had more of that huge atmosphere to it. The double rock bottom through the announce table and the return of Stone Cold puts the icing on the cake for this one. The Judgment Day match was FANTASTIC, and in my opinion the GREATEST Ironman match of all time (coming from somebody who watches Rude-Steamboat about a week ago). The way that these two pace this match is amazing, as they work an absolute breathtakingly fast pace the entire time, keeping the entire 60 minutes fun as hell. This is the ANTI-WM 12 match, as it's not boring or dull at all, with tons of limb work being executed by both men, and the logic of weaker-non-finisher moves gaining pins after the match goes on and on being genius. You also have the return of the Undertaker and HHH's cerebral assassin strategy to get Disqualified so he can work on The Rock some more (copied by Kurt-Brock in 03 of course ) to complete this match. The best Rock-HHH match in my book, and an all time great performance by both men.

The European PPV bout between Shane and HHH and Rock wasn't the best match I've seen out of Hunter, but it was just a fun match between a bumping machine (Shane) , a technical master (Hunter), and an entertainment mastermind (The Rock). It was very fun to see just how The Rock was going to escape this match with his title, with greed overpowering Shane Mcmahon causing what should have been an easy HHH title victory, and turning it into a Rock win. The KOTR match was pretty mediocre for a big time main event, but ONCE AGAIN Hunter's performance isn't to blame as he is the clear MVP of this tag match. The match really lacked in drama, and it seemed like 4 out of the 6 competitors in the match (barring Hunter and Taker) just really didn't care. Shane was pretty awesome at the beginning doing his thing, but the match quicky degenerates downward. Not a BAD match by any means, but definitely the bottom of the barrel for Triple H in the year 2000.

So half the year is over and we have 5 out of 7 matches that are ****+ ? Yeah, it wasn't like this was one of the best years for a performer EVER or anything. Can't wait to watch the Jericho, Angle , and Benoit matches.
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HHH 2000 PPV matches:

RR: *****
NWO: ****1/4
WM: ***1/2
BL: ****1/2
JD: ****1/4
KOTR: **1/4
FL: ****1/2
SS: ***1/4
Unforgiven: ***
NM: ****
SVS: ***3/4
Armageddon: ****

Definitely one of the best years for a performer in terms of PPV at least. 3 classics, 2 borderline classics, several awesome matches and nothing lower than *** besides the KOTR match... which was hardly because of HHH. He remained consistent with the last half of 2000 in 2001 up until he got injured. Had he not gotten injured, who knows if he would've put on more borderline classic/classic matches and how many more would've happened? All the stars aligned just right for HHH in 2000. He consistently had opponents that were great/he had great chemistry with, HHH himself was at his in ring peak, and he was prominently featured and a very hated heel. Even though Rock was the bigger star and actually had a great year in 2000 as well, HHH can understandably be called the WOTY 2000.
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HHH 2000

RR: **********
NWO: *****
WM: *****
BL: *****
JD: *****
KOTR: **********
FL: *****
SS: *****
Unforgiven: *****
NM: *****
SVS: *****
Armageddon: *****

That's without his various TV matches with Rikishi, Taka, Tazz and The Brooklyn Brawler, all of which are also **********.

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Just watched the Fully Loaded 2000 Last Man Standing between Hunter and Jericho..... I'm still breathless.

That was one of the greatest matches I've ever seen. The DISSECTION of Jericho's ribs by Hunter, all of the crazy sequences in the middle of the match with Hunter just DESTROYING JERICHO, to Jericho's comeback and subsequent ending of the match. Both men timed the 10 counts absolutely PERFECTLY , with both men barely making it before the 10 for most of the match. The greatest Last Man Standing match of all time by FAR, and in my mind I don't know what to do now. I mean, maybe I'm overreacting because Foley-Hunter is one of the greatest matches ever, but on a first watch I don't think I've ever loved a match more than I love this one. Brutal, intense, and just all around PERFECT in every way. This gets the full ***** from me.

Obis , I'll be watching the Survivor Series match vs Austin later and you might have that match rated higher than ANYBODY that I've ever seen. On my first watch I didn't rate it but I DEFINITELY thought it was ***+ material, but most reviews I read claim that the match is shit and is the worst Austin PPV match ever and ONE of Hunter's worst, although I heavily disagree. Your thoughts on the Hunter-Austin series ?
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HHH 2000 PPV Matches:

RR: ****3/4
NWO: ****1/4
WM: ****1/4
BL: ****1/2
JD: ****3/4
KOTR: **1/4
FL: ****3/4
SS: **1/2
Unforgiven: ***
NM: ***1/4
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WM16 is so underrated, the only reason people are talking more about Vince and Shane's involvement and not the match is because Rock didn't win, and I agree but the match was awesome:

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Just watched the Fully Loaded 2000 Last Man Standing between Hunter and Jericho..... I'm still breathless.

That was one of the greatest matches I've ever seen. The DISSECTION of Jericho's ribs by Hunter, all of the crazy sequences in the middle of the match with Hunter just DESTROYING JERICHO, to Jericho's comeback and subsequent ending of the match. Both men timed the 10 counts absolutely PERFECTLY , with both men barely making it before the 10 for most of the match. The greatest Last Man Standing match of all time by FAR, and in my mind I don't know what to do now. I mean, maybe I'm overreacting because Foley-Hunter is one of the greatest matches ever, but on a first watch I don't think I've ever loved a match more than I love this one. Brutal, intense, and just all around PERFECT in every way. This gets the full ***** from me.

Obis , I'll be watching the Survivor Series match vs Austin later and you might have that match rated higher than ANYBODY that I've ever seen. On my first watch I didn't rate it but I DEFINITELY thought it was ***+ material, but most reviews I read claim that the match is shit and is the worst Austin PPV match ever and ONE of Hunter's worst, although I heavily disagree. Your thoughts on the Hunter-Austin series ?
The FL match is awesome. Second best though for me, as I have Cena/Umaga RR as slightly higher. I remember I actually hadn't seen (or at least remembered) the match until a few years ago when Austin101 gave it the full *****. I gave it a watch and loved it and put it at ****1/2, and have watched it a couple of times since.

As for Austin/HHH, I might rate it a bit highly but that match is just a lot of fun to watch. It sold the feud perfectly as the two men tried to kill each other, with Austin getting some revenge on HHH from the year prior. The match is just a fun ass brawl and I feel the overall body of work was good. I'd probably need to give it a watch and before my last watch I had it at like **1/2, but for some reason on the last watch earlier this year I just flung it up to ***3/4. I don't think I'd go lower than *** on it.

As for their series, the NM99 match I have in the ***3/4. Need to re-watch though. The NWO01 match I have at ****1/4.

The WM16 match for me is just boring as all hell until Show is eliminated. Then it gradually gets better throughout. It never reached that "classic" level for me, even when it was just Rock and HHH, but it was still great overall.
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Rock/HHH at Mania 16 is awesome. Rock/HHH/Foley was great. I especially loved Foley willing to sell his soul and to work with HHH to get rid of Rock so it would just be down to the two of them. Rock/HHH/Foley/Show was just alright lol.
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