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Old 07-02-2012, 11:15 AM   #3551 (permalink)
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Just looked up my thoughts after the show happened, seems I only really liked the SD chamber (***1/2). Everything else I gave less than ***. Might not bother now lol.
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John Cena/CM Punk MITB 11

Awesome. The crowd made this match for me, there were a few sloppy exchanges between the two but overall it was well paced and an even affair. The near falls were well done and even had me (a year after the event) jump up (especially after Punk took the second FU)

****1/4

SD MITB 11

Something about this didn't sit with me right, i don't know whether it was the amount of men in the match and how half of them were down for an obscene amount of time or what but something just felt off. MVP of the match was Sheamus, he took a few bumps and gave the best ones of the match. The end sequence was okay but not as good as the one later on (even if it was slighty delayed when the ladders fell)

*** just.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:12 PM   #3553 (permalink)
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Backlash 2005

Intercontinental Championship Shelton Benjamin vs. Chris Jericho - ***1/2
Tag Team turmoil - **
Last Man Standing Chris Benoit vs. Edge - ***3/4
Viscera vs. Kane - *
Hulk Hogan & Shawn Michaels vs. Muhammad Hassan & Daivari - **1/2
World Heavyweight Championship: Batista vs. Triple H - ***


Vengeance 2005

Intercontinental Championship Carlito vs. Shelton Benjamin - **1/2
Victoria vs. Christy Hemme - DUD
Edge vs. Kane - *1/2
Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels - ***3/4
WWE Championship John Cena vs. Chris Jericho vs. Christian - ***
World Championship/Hell In A Cell Batista vs. Triple H - ****
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:20 PM   #3554 (permalink)
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Am I the only one that has Batista vs. Triple H at Vengeance 2005 at atleast ****1/2? The third best Hell In A Cell match in my opinion, behind Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker and Brock Lesnar vs. The Undertaker, which are #1 and #2 respectively.
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Well, the first time I watched it I nearly had a seizure and subsequently rated it *****. I might have to reconsider it, but eh. I don't recall feeling that wired up watching any other WWE match ever.

Triple H does this thing (he did it in the WM28 match too) where he picks up his sledgehammer right at the time the other guy picks him up to slam him and it makes you go OMFG REVERSAL!!!1! but then he gets slammed anyway. That's one thing that stuck out to me because I'm always paying attention to the little details, which usually isn't good for me because I catch them calling spots or something. But things like that make me glad I do.
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Probably not, no. I just never enjoyed Batista/Triple H all that much. Never thought they had great chemistry together and wasn't that interested when they faced each other.
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Watched the Judgement Day 01 Tag Turmoil the other day and I still love that match as much as I did when I first saw it. Following on from that, I'm trying to work my way through the WWE's tag turmoil matches (mostly to reminisce about the state of the division).

On my list so far, I have;
Judgement Day 2001
Armageddon 2003
Backlash 2005
New Year's Revolution 2007
Extreme Rules 2010
Night of Champions 2010

Are there any more PPV turmoil matches I'm missing? And was there any TV turmoil matches? I'm hopeless for remembering matches from TV (particularly low/mid-card ones)...
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Humm, Summerslam 1999 iirc.
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The Dudley Boyz Tag Team Table Invitational at No Mercy 2000 was kind of like a turmoil match only you had to put a man through a table to eliminate the team.

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More 2003 HHH! I am the Game and I am blowing chunks.

v Booker T (Mania XIX)
- So I've never really seen all of the build up to this. I get the bits and pieces, and Jerry Lawler bringing up that Book was arrested at a young age is something, but it's not the fried chicken-level racism that this was apparently based from. Either way of all the PPV matches of HHH's 2003, I was looking forward to this the most, and actually because it has a good rep and not because I want to do spit-takes. My stock on Booker T has gone up a good deal since the beginning of the year; it started with the WCW when I was surprised none of the Benoit matches of '98 were the carry-jobs I thought they might be, and I've thought he's been a really capable wrestler in everything I've seen him in. Including this. I think all in all this was a good match, but it kind of suffers from, I don't know how to phrase it, but the kind of thing HHH would do in all of his matches around this time...random bullshit. Most of the early and mid sections of this are just...again I don't know...moves, I guess. No one particularly has control, hope spots are timed weirdly, comebacks aren't really comebacks because it's too back and forth. The Steiner match from the Rumble looked like two guys emulating what they see on TV and failing hard, this looked like guys emulating what they see on TV and actually not making it look like a pile of shit. I think Trip really should have laid his matches out beforehand around this time, they just lacked a real structure. With that said the structure to this got pretty much laid out perfectly when Flair drop Book's leg on the steps. They pretty much pulled off the ideal sequences and all that doodah to make the finishing stretch really good, but it kind of suffered. Wrestling match has an idea, and even if that idea is good, the execution needs to be good for the idea to look good. Like I said it was laid out really well- Trip works the leg with the Indian Deathlock and who knows what else, and Book gets a desperation pin. Trip goes "he has more in the tank!? Fine I'm finishing the fucker off now" and a failed Pedigree leads to a teased ref bump and another flash pin. Booker sells the leg really well and gets a scissor kick for another "holy fuck he's gonna WIN this!!!" pinfall. Problem is that HHH sold like crap. Wobbled shitty and actually fell BACKWARDS when eating the scissor kick. Want to know what's worse than that!? The fucking finish. Booker should have won for sure, it's been said before by everyone and I'm saying it now, but even then if they worked a good finish it wouldn't leave such a crappy taste in my mouth. HHH hits a Pedigree that JR even calls "a desperation move," they both lie on the floor for a dozen seconds, Booker still has the energy to roll himself on his BACK, yet can't kick out when Trip lightly puts his hand on his chest. I forgot where I read this, but someone wrote something somewhere about WrestleMania 19 that really sums it up.....it took three leg drops to beat Mr. McMahon, it took three Rock Bottoms to beat Steve Austin, it took three F-5's to beat Kurt Angle. One Pedigree and YA DONE, BOOK.

v Kevin Nash (Judgment Day)
- Well fuck me in the mouth this was actually very solid wrestling. It's not something I'd expect anyone to press ctrl+8 more than twice for or anything, but it was actually laid out way better than the other matches I've gone through for this dumbass project of mine.
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Still suffers from that. Hunter's selling continue to suck. But hey, this actually had a good start; Kev is mad at hid former buddy and just beats the hell out of him all over the place, running him into the post and whatnot. They do them awesome signature wrestling moves like "Heel Tries to Put Face's Face in Turnbuckle and Gets His Own Face in Turnbuckle Instead" and Nash looks better than I thought he would. I mean I was sort of expecting the-Great-Khali-With-Broken-Knee-Caps levels of lumbering, but the lummox proved me wrong. They're still running with Hebner refusing to DQ Trip, and when he gets knocked Trip starts cheating and stuff. Then he pulls out the hammer. Earl be gone, Match be gone. HHH be through a table. I have something more to say about this, but I don't remember what it is. So there.
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