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Old 06-19-2012, 06:38 PM   #3271 (permalink)
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I can't give Cena WOTY because of the way his matches have been booked this year. Other than the Brock match, he really hasn't done anything outstanding.

We need Rey.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:43 PM   #3272 (permalink)
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Damn right Brye. I miss Rey and I hope he is fully recovered and settles whatever other issues he may have before he gets back. He's one of the most consistent WWE in ring performers of the last 10 years.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:44 PM   #3273 (permalink)
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I would kill to see another Dolph/Rey feud. Their Summerslam '09 match was awesome and I think they could trump it now.

There's actually so many Rey matches I'd like to see.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:58 PM   #3274 (permalink)
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Ricky Steamboat vs Ric Flair Boogie Jam 84 : *** 1/2
Ricky Steamboat vs Cowboy Bob Orton 1985 : ****
Ricky Steamboat vs Don Muraco 1985 : ***
Ricky Steamboat vs Jake Roberts 1986 : ***
Watched these recently and loved them. Flair match is so incredibly smartly worked, and the special guest commentary realy says all about it that needs to be said. They do so much with so little and the crowd goes apeshit for it. I went apeshit for it. Tremendous match.

Orton and Muraco matches were just really fun. The Muraco match is the first time I've ever been happy to see a lumberjack match over a singles match, since Muraco kinda blows and I'll take any sort of stipuation I can get with him. Orton match was just fucking great.

I was blown away by Steamboat/Snake. Jake was amazing in it. I never took part in any list where I had to make the top 100 WWE matches ever, but I'd consider this for my top 50. Adored it.

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Also, this. I'm probably alone, but the street fight went too long and by the time it went fifteen minutes I really wanted to end. Didn't think it was bad, but if I had to choose between 'bad' and 'good'....I'd choose bad.
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I feel like I've underrated the earlier Flair-Steamboat match. I flip-flopped my ratings from **** to *** 3/4 to *** 1/2 , and I'm still uneasy with that rating as this was one of the harder ones to rate imo. If you factor in the guest commentary, it's **** easily IMO.

Fucking love that Orton match, he was so agile in it, kipping up and doing all kinds of crazy holds and shit, Muraco's match was fun but the worst on the disc (that certainly doesn't mean it's bad AT ALL).

Steamboat-Savage match was so full of psychology. I swear to god that every punch Jake takes means something to the context of the story being told. I have no idea why he wasn't ever given a belt or anything, he could have been something REALLY special. Maybe if he was on top he would have cleaned his act up as well, who knows ?

Gonna start watching the Cheating Death , Stealing Life DVD tonight I think. Might even watch the entire two discs in one sitting since I might have to pull an all nighter. On a side note, I just picked up the ECW unreleased Vol 1 DVD, so that'll be next in line. I still have a Ric Flair and the Four Horsemen review to post as well
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:14 PM   #3276 (permalink)
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On Rey's return, I would LOVE to see him feud with Daniel Bryan. I feel those two could put on some reallllly good matches.
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:35 PM   #3277 (permalink)
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I feel like I've underrated the earlier Flair-Steamboat match. I flip-flopped my ratings from **** to *** 3/4 to *** 1/2 , and I'm still uneasy with that rating as this was one of the harder ones to rate imo. If you factor in the guest commentary, it's **** easily IMO.
that's one of the reasons I gave up the snowflakes. "Is this ***1/2? IDK, it's not REALLY as good as this other ***1/2 match, but there's a ***3/4 match over here I think it's just as good as." I'm convinced have OCD or something, though.

I have no idea why he wasn't ever given a belt or anything, he could have been something REALLY special. [/quote]

Honestly through that whole match all I could think of (other than :mark ) is what the back were thinking never giving Jake the IC Title. He should have gotten the Honky Tonk Man run.
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Since Money in the Bank is coming up, what are your top 5 MITB ladder matches?

Mine:
1. Wrestlemania XXIV
2. Wrestlemania 21
3. Smackdown Money in the Bank 2011
4. Smackdown Money in the Bank 2010
5. Raw Money in the Bank 2011
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Old 06-19-2012, 10:44 PM   #3279 (permalink)
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Since Money in the Bank is coming up, what are your top 5 MITB ladder matches?

Mine:
1. Wrestlemania XXIV
2. Wrestlemania 21
3. Smackdown Money in the Bank 2011
4. Smackdown Money in the Bank 2010
5. Raw Money in the Bank 2011
1. Wrestlemania XXI : **** 1/2
2. Wrestlemania XXIV : **** 1/4
3. Smackdown MITB 2011 : ****
4. Raw MITB 2011 : *** 1/2
5. Wrestlemania XXII : *** 1/2

Seems like nowadays there's always a consensus top 2 every year for MOTY ever since 2009. However, in the years 2007 and 2008 there were many different directions that you could go for MOTY, here are a few of the potential canidates IMO :

2007: Orton-HHH LMS NM 07 , HBK-Orton SS 07 , Cena vs Umaga RR , Cena vs Umaga NYR , Cena vs HBK I AND II , Backlash 4 Way, ANY Undertaker-Batista match really, NWO 07 Tag.

2008: Any Michaels-Jericho match, any Undertaker-Edge match, HBK-Flair (if you like it that much) , Taker-Show (a few to choose from) , Batista-HBK, and so on and so forth.

For 2008 I have Undertaker vs Edge HIAC at Summerslam 2008 as my definitive MOTY (**** 1/2) , but I'm having a hard time choosing my 2007 MOTY, because I have FOUR matches (Orton-HHH, Batista-Taker WM 23 , Cena-Umaga RR , NWO tag) at **** 1/2 ... SO hard to decide, but I'd probably order them like this ATM:

1. Cena-Umaga
2. HHH-Orton
3. Batista/taker vs HBK/Cena
4. Undertaker-Batista

Thoughts on the MOTY's for these two years ? Like to get lots of opinions on this.
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There was one match I thought was the definitive MOTY in 2008 was Michaels-Flair but that wouldn't be fair since I didn't watch a lot of 2008 lol

As for 2007, Cena-Michaels Wrestlemania (don't remember II that well), Cena-Umaga Royal Rumble, and Undertaker-Batista Wrestlemania are my MOTY candidates but if I had to choose, it'll be Cena-Michaels Wrestlemania.

Come to think of it, Cena had a boss year in 2007
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