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Old 06-17-2012, 06:22 PM   #3201 (permalink)
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Anybody got stars for vengeance 2011?

cena/del rio looks interesting what with the ring being broke and all whilst punk&trip/miz&truth looks okay.
This was from last December, I feel like it's trash compared to my other reviews, but the I still stick by my stars, just thought the write-up was horrible.


Vengeance 2011

Air Boom vs Zig-Swag: ***
Ziggler vs Ryder: ** 1/2
Phoenix vs Torres: *
Sheamus vs Christian: ** 3/4
Awesome Truth vs HHH & Punk: *** 1/2
Orton vs Rhodes: ***
Henry vs Show: *** 1/4
Del Rio vs Cena LMS: *** 1/4


Thoughts

When you first look at my ratings, you're going to notice two things: No non-diva matches under 2 and a half stars, and no matches over 3 and a half stars.

Ziggler pulling double duty was a good effort by a good worker. The opener was fast paced and good at setting the tone for the rest of the show, and Ziggler vs Ryder was a decent little match that showcased the popular Zack Ryder on PPV. I disagree with the order the matches were put in though. If Zack Ryder was going to lose, have him face Ziggler first, don't make him look weak.

The Divas match was your typical random garbage. I don't think Vince knows what to do with the Divas nowadays. Gone are the days of Trish and Lita. Thats all I gotta say about that.

Sheamus vs Christian, while not as good as their Hell In A Cell encounter a few weeks earlier, was a decent but forgettable match. Two and 3 quarter stars seems appropriate for this match.

Now we get into the good half of the PPV. Nothings but 3 star+ matches from here on out. Alot of people will disagree with my rating for the tag team match, but I thought it was really good, as in the 3 and a half star territory, and I don't know whether its because I am a diehard mark for HHH and Punk, or not, but I absolutely love this match. Again, alot of people will disagree.

Rhodes vs Orton was a good match, having Orton go over was the right decision because I don't believe that Rhodes is ready to go over an Orton-style main event players. Good stuff here that I love seeing.

Henry and Show have this weird chemistry together, that they always put together a half decent match. This was a surprisingly good match between the two, as the pacing got better as the match went on.

The main event was really hit or miss. I thought it was a really FUN match. It wasn't technically good or anything, it was like a good action movie, like a popcorn match. Its like they were doing things that would kill normal human beings, and just brushing it off like it was nothing. A really good way to end the PPV.

In the end, this was a great PPV with many good matches. As a whole it seems like a great show, and I'm always a fan of taking your main eventers and spreading them throught different matches amongst the card (Punk,Orton,Henry and Cena were all in different matches). Recommended for sure

7/10
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No Way Out 2012:
Sheamus v. Ziggler ***3/4
Santino v. Ricardo DUD
Christian v. Rhodes ***1/4
Primetime Players v. Usos v. Primo and Epico v. Kidd and Gabriel **
Layla v. Phoenix *3/4
Sin Cara v. Hunico **
Punk v. Bryan v. Kane ****
Ryback v. Jobbers DUD
Cena v. Show ***

Middle of the show dragged due to lack of heat for the lower midcarders, both otherwise it was an OK show. Check out the triple threat match if you get the chance.
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No Way Out

Zig/Sheamus - ****
Santino/RR - DUD
Christian/Rhodes - ***1/2
Tag 4-way - ***
Layla/Beth - **
Sin Cara/Hunico - **
Punk/Bryan/Kane - ****1/4
Cena/Show - *1/2

Fun show, imo.
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NWO was great. Neck in neck with ER for PPV of the year so far. First two matches were fantastic.

Sheamus/Ziggler - ****
Santino/Ricardo - *
Christian/Rhodes - ****
Tag Team Four Way - **3/4
Layla/Beth - **
Cara/Hunico - *1/2
Punk/Kane/Bryan - ***1/2
Cena/Show - ***

EDIT: By "first two matches", I meant Sheamus/Ziggler and Christian/Rhodes, not fucking Santino/Ricardo.
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No Way Out 2012

Sheamus (c) vs. Dolph Ziggler - ***3/4
Ricardo Rodriguez vs. Santino Marella - DUD
Christian (c) vs. Cody Rhodes - ***1/4
Primetime Players vs. The Uso's vs. Epico/Primo vs. Kidd/Gabriel - **1/4
Layla (c) vs. Beth Phoenix - *1/2
Sin Cara vs. Hunico - *1/2
CM Punk (c) vs. Kane vs. Daniel Bryan - ***1/2
Ryback vs. Dan Delaney & Rob Grimes - DUD
John Cena vs. Big Show - *1/2

Very up and down.
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NWO was great. Neck in neck with ER for PPV of the year so far.

Sheamus/Ziggler - ****
Santino/Ricardo - *
Christian/Rhodes - ****
Tag Team Four Way - **3/4
Layla/Beth - **
Cara/Hunico - *1/2
Punk/Kane/Bryan - ***1/2
Cena/Show - ***
I think I would put ER a step above it but it was still really good.

At least this thread will be more civil than the official one.
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Old 06-17-2012, 10:27 PM   #3207 (permalink)
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First Take : No Way Out 2012

WHC : Sheamus vs Dolph Ziggler : *** 3/4
Santino Marella vs Ricardo Rodriguez Tuxedo Match : DUD
ICC : Christian vs Cody Rhodes : *** 1/4
Tag Team 4 Way : ** 3/4
DC : Layla vs Beth Phoenix : * 3/4
Sin Cara vs Hunico : * 3/4
WWEC : CM Punk vs Kane vs Daniel Bryan : *** 3/4
Ryback vs Jobbers : DUD (Normally would be N/A, but I'm sick of this pointless bullshit)
John Cena vs The Big Show Cage : ** 1/4

Just a few quick notes on the PPV:

- I try to be civil, unlike most people in the general forum during these events, but these pointless matches (Tuxedo, Sin Cara, Ryback) DON'T need to take place on PPV. If I had paid for this I would be super pissed, and it's a trend that the WWE severely needs to put a stop to.

- Opener was a great little match that really showed off why Dolph is one of the best workers in the ring today. Sheamus was a little sloppy out there, but besides that one little flaw, this match was fantastic with back and forth action

- Rhodes/Christian was a great little back and forth contest with a great false finish and a fantastic ending sequence, might bump up on a rewatch.

- Tyson Kidd is flat out awesome. He literally accounts for 3/4* added onto the tag title four way. Let's get this guy some wins, Please ?

- Divas match was a major step down from last month's PPV Diva match.

- WWE Championship match was the MOTN in my opinion, and it hinges on the verge of *** 3/4 and ****, but from what I saw, I will NOT give it the benefit of the doubt and push it to ****, but might on a rewatch. Bryan being down for like 5 minutes at the end honestly makes the difference for me. How long before we can say that this WWE Championship run by Punk is the most consistent ever ?

- The Cage Match, although the biggest story of the event, should not have main evented. It was decent, but nowhere NEAR main event quality. This year has had 6 PPV's, and only in ONE of them has the Main Event been the MOTN, and even THAT'S debateable. WWE, Fuck off and straighten your main events out!

- Complete throwaway show IMO, with nothing really of note happening in this one. Due to the amount of filler it's probably the worst PPV of the year so far(other than that, it's better than EC 2012), but we got 2 great title matches, so that has to account for SOMETHING.

- Oh yeah, HHH vs Lesnar @ Summerslam ? .......... FUCK YES.

First Take : 6/10
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Oh hey look fans who aren't saying how horrible the show was when really it was very good. 4 good matches.
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Zig/Sheamus - ****1/2
Santino/RR - ***. Great fun.
Christian/Rhodes - ****
Tag 4-way - ****1/4
Layla/Beth - **1/2
Sin Cara/Hunico - ***1/4
Punk/Bryan/Kane - *****
Cena/Show - ****

Best show since Wrestlemania 17.
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didn't really like anything on the show. Part that made me smile the most was when AJ said she she cared for Bryan he goes "I-I don't care" and rolls his eyes and stuff. Most boring WWE PPV I've probably ever watched in full. 3 hour Raws sure as hell don't look inspiring after this and I doubt I'll be watching WWE shows anymore.
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