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Damn, suddenly saw the Starbuck with a red tag :shock. Red like this face :hhh here:

3:45


Congrats :vince.

I know, I was like what the fuck? Almost everyone I know says that debut is amazing
I think it was more about the goofy facial expressions he did after Rock's promo. He came out to a huge reaction and a great segment with the Top guy in the industry but in the last second he almost turned himself into a comedy character when the crowd was ready to see him as a Top star. But it wasn't serious when you look back now because he did it in 2000 anyway. Still best debut of all time IMO.
 
#6,022 ·
Damn, suddenly saw the Starbuck with a red tag :shock. Red like this face :hhh here:

3:45


Congrats :vince.



I think it was more about the goofy facial expressions he did after Rock's promo. He came out to a huge reaction and a great segment with the Top guy in the industry but in the last second he almost turned himself into a comedy character when the crowd was ready to see as a Top star. But it wasn't serious when you look back now because he did it in 2000 anyway. Still best debut of all time IMO.
The faces was what his problem with it was. I can understand that, but it's not like it ruined or even hurt the debut imo.
 
#6,024 ·
Damn, suddenly saw the Starbuck with a red tag :shock. Red like this face :hhh here:

3:45


Congrats :vince.



I think it was more about the goofy facial expressions he did after Rock's promo. He came out to a huge reaction and a great segment with the Top guy in the industry but in the last second he almost turned himself into a comedy character when the crowd was ready to see him as a Top star. But it wasn't serious when you look back now because he did it in 2000 anyway. Still best debut of all time IMO.
LOL I love this promo, it's hilarious.

"Rock lemme compliment you on the lovely pajama top you have on". LOL.

-DFG
 
#6,026 ·
Top 10 Bret matches?

Mine

1) v Austin, Wrestlemania 13 - *****
2) v Bulldog, Summerslam 92 - *****
3) v Owen, Wrestlemania X - *****
4) v Mr Perfect KOTR 93 - ****3/4
5) v Austin, Survivor Series 96 - ****3/4
6) v 123 Kid, Raw 1994 - ****1/2
7) v Diesel, Survivor Series 95 - ****1/2
8) v Mr Perfect, Summerslam 91 - ****1/4
9) v Bulldog, IYH 95 - ****1/4
10) v Taker, One night only - ****1/4
 
#6,029 ·
I remember one promo with Trips, Kurt and Foley and she actually had to turn away from the camera because she was laughing lol. Promo was hilarious though so I can't blame her.

So much fucking blood in the Trips/Shawn LMS. I miss JR on commentary :(. He makes the world a better place lol.

THE STARBUCK
 
#6,031 ·
Top 10 Bret matches?

Mine

1) v Austin, Wrestlemania 13 - *****
2) v Bulldog, Summerslam 92 - *****
3) v Owen, Wrestlemania X - *****
4) v Mr Perfect KOTR 93 - ****3/4
5) v Austin, Survivor Series 96 - ****3/4
6) v 123 Kid, Raw 1994 - ****1/2
7) v Diesel, Survivor Series 95 - ****1/2
8) v Mr Perfect, Summerslam 91 - ****1/4
9) v Bulldog, IYH 95 - ****1/4
10) v Taker, One night only - ****1/4
This list looks great. I would have Owen SummerSlam 94 and maybe Diesel Royal Rumble 95 somewhere in there if possible. Bret's got so many classics. I could add matches with Backlund, Benoit, Shawn (yes, the Iron Man), Canadian Stampede, Hart Foundation matches with Bulldogs/Brain Busters, tags with Owen, etc.
 
#6,033 ·
jericho doc was great, would recommend to anyone. Only gripe was that they didnt mention MITB at all.
 
#6,034 ·
This list looks great. I would have Owen SummerSlam 94 and maybe Diesel Royal Rumble 95 somewhere in there if possible. Bret's got so many classics. I could add matches with Backlund, Benoit, Shawn (yes, the Iron Man), Canadian Stampede, Hart Foundation matches with Bulldogs/Brain Busters, tags with Owen, etc.
I really like the cage match v Owen but not as much as most others, love the Rumble match v Diesal but only seen it once, still havnt seen the Backlund match at Survivor Series 94, been on my must watch list for ages.
 
#6,036 ·
jericho doc was great, would recommend to anyone. Only gripe was that they didnt mention MITB at all.
It wasn't until this year that they actually acknowledged him on TV as the kayfabe creator of the concept.

Speaking of which, I haven't been able to find the original promo where he was sat ontop of the ladder and announced the concept. If anyone has a link, it would be much appreciated!
 
#6,037 ·
#6,039 ·
Sweet, thanks. I'll have to check it out. I love the DVD sets that include docs, but most seem to just be matches. I love the HBK DVD set that included a doc (Heartbreak & Triumph?).
Yeah, I really only check out DVDs that include Docs and good extras. I've usually seen most of the matches featured on the sets, so they're almost an afterthought.
 
#6,040 ·
If there's one thing I've noticed while watching this PPV (RR04), it's that everything feels more real compared to the artificial feel that goes along with WWE today imo. I don't know if that's to do with the investment in the characters combined with the experience level of the talent or because the overall presentation wasn't so clean back then. I don't know. But the video package for the Rumble match itself, when you compare it to the ones from today it's shocking how big of a difference there is.

As an aside, holy fuck at that extra of HHH/HBK backstage after their match. Brutal. Absolutely brutal.
 
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