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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

One giant DUD and one giant TURD of a match. Worst cell ever, and probably the worst Undertaker match ever. I spit on it.
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I've been looking to pick up a few more superstar collections within the next few weeks, so I could do with some reccommendations from you guys

I'm looking at picking up the Jericho and Big Show (been a long-time fan and some of the matches look interesting) sets so some reviews of them will be much appreciated, but any other reccomendations would be welcome.

EDIT: i'm preferrably looking towards sets based on stars of the Attitude Era upto the present (trying to get a bit of history on the guys I grew up watching)

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I love how Bossman handcuffs Taker to the cell and the cuffs just BREAK. It's absolute wrestlecrap at it's best, and although I will agree that it deserves a DUD rating, I gave it a little better of a rating simply because they used the cell... I actually kind of feel dirty for not giving it a DUD rating now...Maybe I should change it..Hmmmm.





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People who defend Vince Russo need to check that match, feud, and aftermath.
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Hell in a Cell VI

Triple H vs Cactus Jack: No Way Out 2000

Mick Foley's career is on the line here in his very last cell match, as well as HHH's first of nine cell appearances. Whereas the first cell match had a story that consisted of Taker basically stalking Shawn, and the KOTR 1998 match having a story that consisted of Undertaker looking dominant over a man that just won't give up, this story is a little different. This match tells a story of Triple H being locked in a cell with an unstoppable monster who is willing to do whatever it takes to take the title. The whole story is centered around the fact that Foley is a madman who is comfortable inside the cell, and although at first HHH is afraid to fight, while the match carries on he has no choice but to go to war with Foley inside the cell if he wishes to retain his title and rid himself of the madman once and for all.

The brutality in this match never ceases to shock me, as it absolutely amazes me as to what lengths Mick Foley will take, and what bumps he will put his body through, in order to tell a story and get the fans involved in a match. Basically Triple H is dominating this one in the ring, until Foley brings Hunter out to his environment, outside the ring, and introduces him to all of his weapons and various toys. Foley wants to get on top of the cell, but Hunter makes sure the cell door has about 12 locks on it to ensure that Mick dosen't escape. The character symbolism is pretty deep here, as this shows us Hunter's confidence in his abilities if he can contain Foley inside the cell, but it also shows us Hunter's fear of Foley thinking outside of the box and bringing the fight outside. The shots in this match are absolutely brutal; The chairshots, steel step shots, and interactions with the cell are all very violent and bloody. I love the throwbacks to the previous Royal Rumble match between these two, like when Foley baits HHH to hit him in the head with a chair, this time (unlike the RR encounter) Foley dodges and uses this to spark his offense.

How these two end up outside of the ring (Foley throwing the steel steps at the cell, busting the side off) is extremely creative. Once these two are outside the cell, Hunter changes his cold, calculated mentality, and runs from Foley (who looks as if he is possessed). The bumps Foley takes outside this cell is amazing, especially the ones off the cage and through the cell. How he still manages to walk after all of this is amazing, and JR's commentary is spot on in this match. Hunter's selling in this is fantastic, making Foley look like an unstoppable force inside the cell. I must also give credit to HHH for his dissective offense in this one. The way he dissects Foley in this one with various shots and calculated manuevers, is something only a prime 2000 Triple H could possibly do. Kudos to both of these competitors to a brutal, entertaining match, with fantastic bumps, EXCELLENT storytelling, drama and excitement. One of the best matches of 2000.

**** 1/2

So yeah....Just a LITTLE better than the last one....




Hell in a Cell VII

Triple H vs Rikishi vs The Undertaker vs The Rock vs Steve Austin vs Kurt Angle: Arm 2000

In this match you have 5 world reknowned legends (and Rikishi), in an all out brawl that was probably about two years before it's time (this seems like a match built for the elimination chamber, not the cell). This is a different type of cell match, all cell matches before were built on storytelling and brutality, whereas this cell match is basically the attitude era cell match, with wild, all out brawling, and not a whole bunch of story and psychology to it. If you could really describe this match in one word, I would say fun. This match I don't think hit its potential, but I would definitely say that this is an awesome brawl that's all over the place. Now there IS a smudge of a story that takes place in this match, as Vince Mcmahon dosen't want his six most valuable performers to destroy each other for the championship, so he threatens to take down the cell. This storyline helps set up future spots in the match, as well as giving us a creative scenario in which these six can get out of the ring.

The beginning of this match is just standard attitude era brawling inside the cell, with the highlights being Triple H's bumping and bladejob outside the ring. The action is all over the place until the match turns into a finisher fest (which I always love, even if sometimes they are absolutely nonsensical) with everybody (sans Rikishi) hitting their finishers with some predictable near falls. It's obvious here that we're just waiting for something big to happen, and for all hell to break loose in this one, it's just not here yet and I believe that the predictability of something to happen within the context of a match (obvious spots, etc) is detrimental and takes away from a match. However things begin to take a turn for the best when Vince Mcmahon shows up with a truck and threatens to tear the cell down, ripping the cell door off in the process. This is when all hell breaks loose, and HHH does a fantastic job of bumping all around the arena for Austin. This also sets up a spot where Undertaker CHOKESLAMS RIKISHI OFF THE CELL INTO THE BED OF A TRUCK. I've heard people say that it wasn't bad because there was a crash pad or whatever there, but I'm sorry, at that weight and falling from that distance, it's bound to screw up your inner organs.

This essentially takes Rikishi out of the match (probably the only reason why he was there in the first place), as we get a Wrestlemania preview between Rock and Austin, which was pure awesomeness. A few finishers later and Angle sneaks the victory away from the other competitors. I loved this match because of how fun it was. I didn't really like all the stalling towards the climax of the match, but Triple H's bumping around, the top of the cell spot, and the culmination of all of these feuds into one big match make it a near classic. It isn't the greatest match of all time or anything, but just looking at the names involved in this match, I don't think I've seen too many more FUN matches than this one. They use the cell effectively and manage to make this match just one big fun, messy, near classic.

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

RANDOM:

The STAR of the Team WWE vs. Nexus match was SKIP FUCKING SHEFFIELD. Two stars for him alone. One for Bryan's return. Around 4 overall.

Michaels/Cena Mania is leagues better than Bryan/Punk imo, but I also consider that the best WWE Championship match in Mania history (I think).

Also preferred Jericho/Mysterio Extreme Rules to the Bash. That match had everything.

This year alone, I'd put Brock/Cena, Triple H/Taker and Sheamus/Bryan over Punk/Bryan, but I'm sure they'll end up having a better match than the OTL one eventually.

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Noticed SilverVison has put the price up for MITB 2011 to 10,99

I posted an order yesterday ordering it at the old price of 5.99 as it was that price when i sent it off, hope they understand and still send it, this happened before with the Tagged Classic sale and they honoured that one fingers crossed
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Michaels/Cena Mania is leagues better than Bryan/Punk imo, but I also consider that the best WWE Championship match in Mania history (I think).

Also preferred Jericho/Mysterio Extreme Rules to the Bash. That match had everything.
No and yes.

Jericho/Mysterio at Extreme Rules was fantastic. Only by a small margin, but it's better than the Bash match. Cena/Michaels is inferior to Bryan/Punk, however.
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No, it's not.

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Yes, it is.
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