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Old 05-28-2012, 07:34 AM   #2731 (permalink)
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Randy Orton vs Cody Rhodes - Street Fight - Smackdown 2011
An extremely good TV match, definitely up there for a 2011 television MOTY. It's two guys going out there and having an all out wrestling match, which is what Smackdown is known for as opposed to the more entertainment heavy RAW shows. Highly creative spots too, it was well worth the rewatch.
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"Attitude-Era brawling with no Character"? Come on it was no classic but it had plenty of character. I guess you wont enjoy the match if you didnt like the finish. Kinda like Booker T-HHH WM 19.
I found the match quite boring in itself. By the time the end rolled round, I was actually irritated that I'd wasted my time with it. In fact, the SD street fight I just mentioned was the better match.
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:56 AM   #2732 (permalink)
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Also not a fan of HHH/Punk. Boring brawling, horrible finish. Wasn't a fan of the angle with the whole bullshit texting, Kevin Nash, and then HHH. Punk went from being the hottest thing in years... to bitching at Kevin Nash. They should have never given Del Rio the title at the end of the SS match. Punk should have kept the belt from then until, well, now lol. Del Rio was a shit champion and in no way deserved it nor needed it (lets face it, even making him the fucking champion didn't get him over). It just ruined the entire angle. FUCK THE WWE!
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:12 AM   #2733 (permalink)
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Ric Flair vs Triple H - Raw 12/31/07
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Potentially Flair's last match ever against one of his best friends, Triple H. Knowing Triple H's background and stature, he's one of the few people that you could really see retiring Flair. Having this match in North Carolina was a genius idea and the symbolic idea of Flair's last match being on the last day of the year is really interesting.

The match itself was really fun. Flair pulling out all his moves in the hopes of keeping his career alive in front of his home crowd. Both of these guys know how to really work a match and the emotion to it felt like that of HBK/Flair on a smaller level. The figure four spot had me honestly thinking that Flair had a chance of making Trips tap, considering Trips' respect for Flair. The ending itself was ok but I would've loved to see Flair kick out of the pedigree. Regal's interference made sense though since he was feuding with HHH at the time and it screwed HHH over and kept Flair's job. There were a bunch of endings I could have seen being awesome but it was still a really entertaining match. Nothing like their '05 feud but I liked the emotion behind it. Triple H helping Flair up after the match and embracing was a really nice touch as well.

***1/2


Going through alot of TV matches for the moment. Tons of stuff I haven't seen in a long time.
Great little match. I remember being on the edge of my seat watching it live. I would say this is their best non-stip match together, but it's hard to compare with the match from 2003, which is highly emotional but for completely different reasons.

I wish they would have released a DVD of his last run, including the matches and promos with Orton, Umaga, HHH, McMahon, etc. It was a great run with a lot of suspense, and there quite a few good-great matches in the mix.

But for that matter, I also want to see another Flair set, something with a lot more '94 - '03 in it. The last set completely skipped everything from that era, and he had quite a few memorable matches in WCW and in his return to WWF/E.
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:16 AM   #2734 (permalink)
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I see your Flair Vs HHH 07, and I raise you Flair Vs HHH 06:

Triple H Vs Ric Flair - Raw 06/02/2006

If anything, I think this might be fun. Man, I keep saying that about shit I wanna watch from Raw 06 lol.

Just a few months ago they were beating the living shit out of each other as HHH tried to end the career of the Nature Boy. Now its all about WrestleMania, with the winner advancing in a tournament (I think) to become #1 contender for the WWE Title.

The first move is a shoulder block by HHH, knocking Flair down. HHH just looks at Flair in disgust, wondering just what the hell this old man is doing in the ring with him. So Flair gets up and hip tosses HHH to the mat. Awesome lol.

They might not be feuding any more, but HHH still wants to kill Old Man Flair, and regardless of your feelings towards HHH as an in ring performer, I personally think some of his absolute BEST performances have been against Flair in 2005, and he's bringing more of that greatness here. And Flair isn't being carried either; he's selling every shot like its near death, doing the Flair flop, and fighting back better than any old man I've ever known. Anyone else think that 05/06 Crazy Old Man Flair Vs Grumpy Old Man Tenryu would have been fucking awesome?

Flair's comeback is glorious in so many ways, from HHH's selling to Flair flipping off The Game while in the figure four. Based on this match I would have been fine with Flair main eventing WM against Cena over HHH .

In the end, youth prevails over experience, with HHH surviving everything Flair threw at him and came back with the Pedigree.

This is awesome. Its fun, bags of fucking fun. Its got quality too, and I think it might have just surpassed Edge/Flair TLC to become my current #1 Raw 2006 match! So, why is this never talked about? Its better than their LMS match imo!!!

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Need to watch that 07 match again though, haven't seen it since it aired. Got a 3 disc set or something around here with his "final run" in WWE stuff. Might have to dig it out.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:06 AM   #2735 (permalink)
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"Attitude-Era brawling with no Character"? Come on it was no classic but it had plenty of character. I guess you wont enjoy the match if you didnt like the finish. Kinda like Booker T-HHH WM 19.
That's completely untrue for me. However, I found the brawling portions of the match to be really uninspired and was pretty boring outside of a few spots. I'm not trashing in the Attitude Era when I say 'Attitude-Era brawling'. In fact, it can be a damn fine style of wrestling when done right. Rock, Austin and even Triple H can be brilliant at it, but at times it can fall flat and just come of as two guys throwing weak shots while waiting to do the next spot and this was the case here.

I actually thought the ending was alright before things went extremely overboard with the interference.
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:38 AM   #2736 (permalink)
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Steve Austin & The Undertaker vs Mankind & Kane (Hell in a Cell): Raw 1998

To rate this as a match really isn't fair, as this is more of an angle that was used to set up the subsequent King of the Ring PPV that was coming up in about thirteen days. This match didn't have a structure and didn't even have a beginning or a finish, however that dosen't mean that this match dosen't rock, because it does. This short 6 minute match is worth watching for two reasons: The dominating brawl by Stone Cold to Mankind and Kane (I mean, he destroys both of them and it's awesome), and Paul Bearer's INSANE blade job. I actually can't believe Paula Bearer bladed like that. All this match is, is literally Stone Cold brawling outside the Cell and Undertaker destorying Paul Bearer inside the cell. AWESOME segment and I loved every second of it, but to throw a rating on this isn't fair at all. I don't even think a bell rings once.

N/A (Awesome, however)

I kind of think I SHOULDN'T include this match on my final ranking of all the Cell matches, thoughts ?
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I quite enjoyed Triple H vs. Punk. The fallout was terrible though.
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The amount of Punk/Bryan responses makes my head hurt.
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Steve Austin & The Undertaker vs Mankind & Kane (Hell in a Cell): Raw 1998

To rate this as a match really isn't fair, as this is more of an angle that was used to set up the subsequent King of the Ring PPV that was coming up in about thirteen days. This match didn't have a structure and didn't even have a beginning or a finish, however that dosen't mean that this match dosen't rock, because it does. This short 6 minute match is worth watching for two reasons: The dominating brawl by Stone Cold to Mankind and Kane (I mean, he destroys both of them and it's awesome), and Paul Bearer's INSANE blade job. I actually can't believe Paula Bearer bladed like that. All this match is, is literally Stone Cold brawling outside the Cell and Undertaker destorying Paul Bearer inside the cell. AWESOME segment and I loved every second of it, but to throw a rating on this isn't fair at all. I don't even think a bell rings once.

N/A (Awesome, however)

I kind of think I SHOULDN'T include this match on my final ranking of all the Cell matches, thoughts ?
Most people forget this match (and the other Raw one with Kane vs. Mankind I believe) even exist. I don't see anyone ever including them in any rankings of anything.

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The amount of Punk/Bryan responses makes my head hurt.
Can't say I'm with ya on that, but the amount of Taker/HHH WM28 and Lesnar/Cena ER hurts my head as well.

But eh, the matches did just happen, so can't say I'm surprised. Even Rock/Cena I spotted a few times as well in my skimming through the thread.
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The amount of Punk/Bryan responses makes my head hurt.
Its deserving of everything it gets really a real masterpiece of in ring wrestling and how to worl a crowd. IF HBK had this match no one would be complaining.

Brock lesnar/Cena match now that is overrated. Just half an hour of Lesnar beating the crap out of Cena . Good match but thats it.
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