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post #2521 of 20560 (permalink) Old 05-21-2012, 03:36 AM
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I gave it a DL and skipped straight to Punk/Bryan, which was the only match I really wanted to see. And I honestly don't know what to say. I'm stumped in a good way. The match was so fast-paced, it went by in a blink. I almost feel like I didn't have a chance to enjoy it, or soak it in, they got so much stuff in. Which I guess is good.

The match started and it almost felt like it was already ending. There was no quiet feeling out process, they just started going for each other's injuries, and beating the hell out of each other.

To me, wrestling wise, this is what Punk/Jericho at WM should have been. See what they can do without a dumb stipulation added?

But yeah, this is just pure wrestling. Kind of sets a new standard for WWE Title matches. The match is just kind of surreal. I feel like how I felt when I watched Cena/Lesnar. There was just such an usual atmosphere, such a spectacle, that I don't know how to compare it to normal matches.

It was action-packed, stiff and realistic, gave us a good finish, but allowed a nice setup for a rematch.

I do feel like something is missing, though. I don't know what. Maybe it's because it went by so quickly I can't fully tell if it was a great match or not. I can't pinpoint specific points of the match, but maybe that's because it's so different from other matches.

I'm so used to WWE-Style matches that I'm used to soaking in the action. I feel like they could have been more inventive with the counters to each other's moves, but I could be wrong. I'm not even nitpicking, I'm just stumped.

I need to give it another watch. A rating can't do it justice right now. I know it was a very good match. I know I enjoyed it. I just wished I enjoyed it more. But I wonder if the reason I didn't enjoy it as much as I would have expected is the same reason that makes it such a great match in the first place. Does that make any sense?

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1. Triple-Threat Match for the World Heavyweight Championship: Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit - WrestleMania XX

2. Career Threatening Match: Shawn Michaels vs. Ric Flair - WrestleMania XXIV

3. WWE Championship: John Cena vs. CM Punk - Money in the Bank 2011

4. No Holds Barred Match: The Undertaker vs. Triple H - WrestleMania XXVII

5. WWF Championship: Hulk Hogan vs. The Ultimate Warrior - WrestleMania VI
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Wow, better than Sheamus/Bryan?

It was a pretty good show overall. Even the divas were good.

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Bryan/Punk - ****1/2. Awesome match. Gave ****1/4 to Bryan/Sheamus from last month, and honestly if the 3rd fall in Bryan/Sheamus didn't end so sudden I probably would have had these matches as equals. Would put Punk/Jericho ever so slightly ahead of Bryan/Punk atm. Awesome to see Punk and Bryan getting the chance (FINALLY) to just go out there and tear shit up.

Cena/Big Johnny was fun. Not good, but fun. Show helping Johnny was the most obvious thing since... I dunno, something obvious. Fuck you.
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So I re-watched Punk/Bryan, and it was even better the second time. Holy shit what a smart, fun match. Punk's leg work was great and I loved how Bryan gained control by outsmarting Punk. The rib work was awesome by Bryan and Punk's selling was so good, he was holding his ribs for pretty much the whole match during moves and everything. Bryan's leg selling was also great but Punk didn't work the leg hard enough for it to stop Bryan, even though he was always reaching to hold it and it was always the cut off point for Punk. One of the best things about the match was the way it showed Bryan to be Punk's toughest opponent ever. Punk is the best in the world at selling desperation and the effects of a match throughout, and this was probably his best performance in the company in that regard. The way he was getting more and more frustrated he couldn't put Bryan away, even using Nigel Mcguinness's signature move, Bryan's toughest opponent ever. Theres no way that wasn't Punk and Bryan paying tribute to Mcguinness. They beat the tar out of each other too, it seemed like they really wanted to punish the other guy, especially those sick forearms that Bryan threw early on, and then Punk doing the same thing later in the match. Bryan's offense looks so sick, those knees are brutal looking and he really knows how to make it seem realistic. Both guys just going straight for certain body parts was awesome and the transitions between work overs were great and flowed perfectly. I love how they are really putting Bryan over as the smartest and most brutal wrestler in the company, I'm sure that's how everyone wanted him to be booked and right now WWE are doing an amazing job getting Bryan over based purely on his ring work, and holy shit is he over or what? He was getting more cheers than Punk from the crowd. Talking of the crowd, they were awesome. The loud dueling CM Punk/Daniel Bryan chants, the YES chants and the this is awesome chants. This was pretty surreal to see in a WWE ring, it wasn't a WWE style match at all, but the crowd absolutely loved it, and it wasn't as if it was a known smark heavy crowd either. The finishing stretch was great with both guys becoming more and more desperate to win and the finish itself was slightly anti climatic considering the rest of the match, but it was really good in setting up the rematch(s) which I think everyone wants to see so it worked fine, and came off even better on a re watch since I knew what the finish was. A sick, sick match with awesome storytelling, psychology, selling and perfectly executed. But when you have the two best workers in the company (or in the US), you're going to get something great. Give these guys a little longer with a proper, hotter finishing stretch and they will create a masterpiece. ****1/2

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20 Man Battle Royal - ** 1/4
Layla vs. Beth Phoenix - *
Miz Vs Brodus Clay - ** 1/2
Tag Team Championships - *** 1/2
Fatal 4 way - **** 3/4
Christian vs. Cody Rhodes - ***
Bryan vs Punk - **** 1/2
Cena vs. Laurinaitis - **

Sheamus/Bryan ER > Punk/bryan OTL btw.
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Bret Hart VS British Bulldog - Summerslam 1992

Watched this for the first time in ages today, still an amazing match IMO, brilliant work from both guys, one of my fave ever matches (im not just saying that being a Bret mark!!)

Amazing crowd, and of course great commentary by Vince and Heenan,

Also, after reading Bret's book, after not long into the match Davey said to Bret " Im fooked, i can't remember anything " Just all a magical moment.

Still close, if not a ***** for me.

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Good review. I have not seen the ppv yet, but I really find it hard to believe that something can be better then Taker/HHH HIAC, Lesnar/Cena and Jericho/Punk from WM. I will have to check it out for sure.

Anyways, I just bought Money in the bank 2011. I have never seen this ppv before, so I cant wait since it has gotten so many great reviews.
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Anyways, I just bought Money in the bank 2011. I have never seen this ppv before, so I cant wait since it has gotten so many great reviews.

I'm excited for you.


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Yeah prepare to thoroughly enjoy MITB. Everything is at the least watchable and 90% of it is far above that.

Rusev | Sami Zayn | Dean Ambrose | Alberto Del Rio | Jack Swagger
Timothy Thatcher | Chris Hero | Scott Dawson | Dash Wilder | Roderick Strong
Summer Rae | Charlotte | Carmella | Becky Lynch | Paige

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Battle Royale: *1/2
Kofi/Truth vs Zig-Swag: ***
Layla vs Beth Phoenix: **
Sheamus vs Jericho vs Del Rio vs Orton: ***3/4
Brodus Clay vs The Miz: *
Christian vs Cody Rhodes: ** 3/4
CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan: **** 1/4
Ryback vs Camacho: DUD
John Cena vs John Laurinitis: *

Fuck that main event. I wouldn't have minded it as much if it was the penultimate match. Who wins with that going on last? The kids are disappointed, the men are given a shit match & it wasn't a shocking turn or anything.
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