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Old 05-20-2012, 03:01 PM   #2501 (permalink)
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Who do you guys think had the best PRIME as an all-around performer ALL-TIME ? I think I'd have to go with Ric Flair in 1989. THREE ***** classics with Steamboat, TWO **** 1/2-**** 3/4 encounters with Funk, and fantastic tag matches at Halloween Havoc 1989 and COTC 8. His micwork was really top notch and unparalled by anyone else in the industry at this point. At Starrcade that year he had a match that Sting that I wasn't really a fan of (But I was never a fan of the Sting/Flair series so that's that), but outside of that, every single appearance that Flair made either in the ring or on the mic was worth watching.

Besides that, who do you believe is currently in their primes in the current WWE ?
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:27 PM   #2502 (permalink)
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Who do you guys think had the best PRIME as an all-around performer ALL-TIME ? I think I'd have to go with Ric Flair in 1989. THREE ***** classics with Steamboat, TWO **** 1/2-**** 3/4 encounters with Funk, and fantastic tag matches at Halloween Havoc 1989 and COTC 8. His micwork was really top notch and unparalled by anyone else in the industry at this point. At Starrcade that year he had a match that Sting that I wasn't really a fan of (But I was never a fan of the Sting/Flair series so that's that), but outside of that, every single appearance that Flair made either in the ring or on the mic was worth watching.

Besides that, who do you believe is currently in their primes in the current WWE ?
Hard to tell who's in their prime in WWE today... I'd say Punk? He's put on a classic with Cena at MITB, had good matches with Mark Henry on Raw which was surprising, his matches vs. Jericho were all fun, the triple threat at Hell in the Cell last year was really good.

Rock was also on his game back in 2002 having great matches at Vengeance, SummerSlam vs. Brock, vs. Flair on Raw, Hogan at WrestleMania, his promo's were all top notch and funny. 2000 was also a great year from him during his series of matches vs. Triple H. But I'm just being biased.
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C&P from elsewhere:

Just watched Angle/Cena from No Mercy 03. Great fucking match. Might even throw a nomination at it. Cena looked... probably the best he's ever looked while actually controlling a match. Sure, its not that often he's been able to do it pretty much since he face turn just a few weeks after this match (pretty strong Cena chants during this match btw), but still. He's still shit at working rest holds lol, but luckily I think he only actually does one here. He gets a ton more offence in on Angle than he did against Undertaker at Vengeance, and I think that's why I like this match more. He really shows what he's capable of, which is kind of a shame because he hasn't looked like that in fuck knows how long. Yeah, he pulls out some great performances in big matches most of the time, but again, those are different because he's not controlling the match. Does some nice mid section work on Angle first, which makes sense to set up to the F-U, then when Angle tries to German Suplex him from the arpon to the announcers table, the quickest reversal Cena could do was a DDT onto the apron (which looked sick), and that opened up the opportunity to work over Angle's neck which is always a smart thing to do because its fucked lol. Awesome powerbomb into the turnbuckle. Angle took that one like a champ. And Angle was fucking good in this too. No "Angle-isms" or whatever. He did do his "jump to the ropes for a suplex" spot, but not after a finisher, and he wasn't able to hit it anyway so it didn't bother me in the slightest. They each kicked out of the other's finisher, but not in an annoying kinda way or anything, just your typical WWE Main Event style match. The way Angle goes into the Ankle Lock for the finish is pretty cool, and Cena looked strong as fuck in defeat. Probably around ****1/4 for it, good chance of making my bottom 20. Would have probably been top 50 on my WWF/E List too, not sure if I actually even watched it back then. If I did I obviously didn't think as highly of it.
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WrestleMania XXVII

Edge vs. Alberto Del Rio for the World Heavyweight Championship - *** 1/2
Cody Rhodes vs. Rey Mysterio - **
Kofi Kingston, Santino Marella, Big Show, Kane vs. The Corre - DUD
Randy Orton vs. CM Punk - *** 1/2
Michael Cole vs. Jerry "The King" Lawler - * (Dragged way too much.)
Triple H vs. Undertaker - **** 1/2
Trish Stratus, Snookie, John Morrison vs. LayCool & Dolph Ziggler - *
John Cena vs. The Miz - ** 1/2

Overall: **

[Note: Had to give Edge vs. Del Rio a half star more even though I wasn't really too intrigued by the match, but it was Edge's final match unfortunately and I can't give it lower than three stars. And Cena vs. Miz match was ridiculous.]
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Watching the bryan/henry cage match from that horrendous holiday special smackdown once again and I fondly remembered how awesome henry's monster heel run as WHC was.

Awesome match between these two, bryan plays an incredible babyface and this run is the best work of henry's career. There is this really awesome sequence where it goes lebell lock, henry counter where he uses his brute strength then sells the lebell locked arm, then a bryan counter into an ankle lock where it really looked like bryan had a chance of winning.

Good finish as well with henry looking like a monster, bryan makes henry look like a machine, and henry really sells bryan as a legitimate threat and a really great babyface vs monster heel dynamic.

Henry's heel championship run is one of the best wwe title runs in years. Really good matches along with a great character equals an awesome title run

Plus the whole bryan/show/henry dynamic is pretty much booked to perfection which leads to bryan's awesome heel turn and entertaining WHC title run
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** for that Ryder/Kane match on the Pre-show just now.

Pretty good back and forth.
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Just some OTL first time watch ratings:

Christian vs. Cody- ***1/2
-Loved the in ring work and couldn't understand why the crowd wasn't getting into it. It wasn't a huge match or anything, but I think they deserved better. In any event I did enjoy the match and I would love to see more between these two.

Orton vs. Sheamus vs. Del Rio vs. Jericho- ****
-Excellent four way that was fun to watch, had great in ring action, a great crowd, and some decent build (great when compared to the WWE Title match). The ending was a bit bland, but overall I enjoyed the match a lot and I wonder where they'll go from here. I'd assume Sheamus/Del Rio and Orton/Jericho... but I really don't know.

Punk vs. Bryan- ****3/4
-This is what pro-wrestling is all about. Fantastic in-ring work/wrestling, psychology, selling, crowd, and they told the best story they could considering they really didn't have much a story to work with. The ending was a perfect way to continue the feud, and overall I put this as my MOTY by a mile. I knew this match would be great, but I wasn't expecting to enjoy it as much as I did. Seriously, a masterpiece of a match and with the way it ended, we're guaranteed another.

So yeah... also Brodus/Miz was decent enough for what it was, and the tag match seemed good, but I wasn't paying full attention to those. Overall though a great PPV imo.
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Over The Limit:

Kofi/Truth vs Swagger/Dolph - ***1/4
Layla/Beth - *3/4
Sheamus/Orton/Del Rio/Jericho - ***3/4
Brodus/Miz - *3/4
Christian/Rhodes - ***3/4
Punk/Bryan - *****
Cena/Johnny - *

- The opening being the battle royal already in progress was fucking weird. But the tag team division looked really good in it and Tyson Kidd shined. Not a bad match at all.

- Opening tag match was good but I liked the Air Boom vs Swag/Zig series better.

- Layla/Beth wasn't too bad although Layla was a little sloppy.

- Fatal four way match was really entertaining. Thought the finish was a tad anticlimactic but overall it was really good.

- Brodus/Miz was ok. Brodus' second best match as the Funkasaurous after the Ziggler one.

- Christian/Rhodes was awesome. Both of these guys have great chemistry with each other and Rhodes might have the best moonsault I've ever seen. Christian being a face is fucking awesome too.

- Giving the full five stars for Punk/Bryan. Crowd was AWESOME. The match itself was amazing and it really had everything. Last time I found myself enjoying a match so much was Punk/Cena.

- Missed the Hunico match.

- Cena/Johnny was meh. Wrestling standpoint it was as expected. The beatdown was sort of lame but I didn't hate the ending. Cole was actually really good on commentary.

Awesome show overall.
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Over the Limit 2012

20 Man "People Power" Battle Royal - ** 1/2
Kofi Kingston & R-Truth vs. Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger for the Tag Team Championships - *** 1/2
Layla vs. Beth Phoenix for the Diva's Championship - **
Brodus Clay vs. The Miz - ** 1/2
Chris Jericho vs. Sheamus vs. Randy Orton vs. Alberto Del Rio for the World Heavyweight Championship - *** 1/2
Christian vs. Cody Rhodes for the Intercontinental Championship - **
CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan for the WWE Championship - **** 1/2
Ryback vs. Camacho - * (How can you rate a squash?)
John Cena vs. John Laurinaitis - DUD

Overall - *** 1/2

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Some ratingz~ for Over the Limit tonight. Enjoyed the show despite the awful buildup and the main event. The two matches I expected to deliver did just that and then some. And Punk/Bryan was just mind blowing. This match has to be a great deal for anybody who has followed these two their entire careers.

Kofi Kingston & R-Truth vs. Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger for the Tag Team Championships - ***1/4
Layla vs. Beth Phoenix for the Diva's Championship - **
Sheamus vs. Randy Orton vs. Chris Jericho vs. Alberto Del Rio - ***3/4
Brodus Clay vs. The Miz - *
Christian vs. Cody Rhodes - ***1/2
CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan for the WWE Championship - ****1/2
Ryback vs. Camacho - *
John Cena vs. John Laurinaitis - DUD

Which leaves my current MOTY top 10 list looking like..

1. Wrestlemania XXVIII: Undertaker vs. Triple H - ****1/2
2. Over the Limit 2012: CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan - ****1/2
3. Wrestlemania XXVIII: CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho - ****1/4
4. Extreme Rules 2012: CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho - ****1/4
5. Extreme Rules 2012: Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan - ****
6. WWE RAW 4/2/12: CM Punk vs. Mark Henry - ****
7. Wrestlemania XXVIII: John Cena vs. The Rock - ***3/4
8. Over the Limit 2012: Sheamus vs. Randy Orton vs. Chris Jericho vs. Alberto Del Rio - ***3/4
9. WWE RAW 4/16/12: CM Punk vs. Mark Henry - ***3/4
10. Elimination Chamber 2012: RAW Elimination Chamber - ***1/2
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